street photography gone wrong yesterday - thoughts? (Page 4): I always try to be mindful of others' wishes, and ask if at all possible. Recently, I visited an Amish farm to get...

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I always try to be mindful of others' wishes, and ask if at all possible. Recently, I visited an Amish farm to get pumpkins, now, the "store' they set up was on their private property, so I imagine it is considered private, is it not? There was a young 5-6 year old boy in his traditional garb, and I asked if I could take his picture - he was quick to say "yes!" with a big smile, but right then his dad came around the corner and said, "you probably had better not", and so I respected his wishes and didn't. I was only carrying a small compact, not full DSLR rig, so it wasn't like I was playing Mr. Photographer. We took a lot of photos that day of the pumpkins, etc., which they had no problem with.

LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field

MtnMan wrote:

Not so laughingly people try. We have a case pending in Idaho where some people are suing the U.S. Forest Service because a tree fell on their son while camping in the woods.

Alas, we often see suits collecting money from the National Park Service for bear attacks.

The problem is that public agencies are so afraid of the costs of defending a lawsuit--even one without merit-- and the other risk of actually losing it. I work for a public agency that often makes a decision to settle for these very reasons.

BTW, I've served on several juries and the whole concept of a "jury of one's peers" scares the hell out of me

MtnMan Loc: ID

LoneRangeFinder wrote:

The problem is that public agencies are so afraid of the costs of defending a lawsuit--even one without merit-- and the other risk of actually losing it. I work for a public agency that often makes a decision to settle for these very reasons.

BTW, I've served on several juries and the whole concept of a "jury of one's peers" scares the hell out of me

Yes. Of course the real reason is that the public agencies aren't using their money to settle. They are using ours. Life is made easier for them by agreeing to pay someone with our money. Isn't that nice of them?

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

MtnMan wrote:

Also shooting most animals from a respectful distance is almost as safe. One moose had me a bit concerned on my trip to Alaska this summer and there were some recent posts of photographers getting gored by buck deer.

Even with Landscapes photographers fall off cliffs, etc.

Oh I hope you enjoyed that trip, I lived in Alaska for 22 years!

MtnMan Loc: ID

Racmanaz wrote:

Oh I hope you enjoyed that trip, I lived in Alaska for 22 years!

We really did. Many wonderful places and we had outrageous weather. It was clear and 80 degrees F for the three days we were in Denali!

This one won an Honorable Mention at the Western Idaho State Fair

This one a blue ribbon...

LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field

MtnMan wrote:

Yes. Of course the real reason is that the public agencies aren't using their money to settle. They are using ours. Life is made easier for them by agreeing to pay someone with our money. Isn't that nice of them?

Well yeah. The real point I was making is that juries are inclined to do stupid things. Ironically, more so when it is "their" money. I've seen it happen many times when I have the "inside story".....

BTW: nice shots and congrats on the awards....

CurreyPhoto Loc: Reddick, Florida

Rongnongno wrote:

Take the time to read... Candids are never an issue but using candids to isolate a person (for any purpose) is. This by the way has become a sensitive privacy issue on social medias.

This statement and the others like it surprise me. Can you cite any authority for this position that I could look at? Thanks.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

MtnMan wrote:

We really did. Many wonderful places and we had outrageous weather. It was clear and 80 degrees F for the three days we were in Denali!

Wow those are beautiful picures. I am envious of you now, because I went to Denali one timein the 22 years I was there but it was heavy overcast and raining, didn't even get to see even the base of Mt. McKinley :(.

doduce Loc: Holly Springs NC

rpavich wrote:

Use your discretion.

Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't mean you've done something illegal or morally wrong.

So people get mad sometimes?

So what.

Ever seen Bruce Gilden work?

Amen.
You have to decide what you are comfortable with.

doduce Loc: Holly Springs NC

Rongnongno wrote:

Beside the unwarranted personal comments... (Did you see me make a comment about you, for any reason?)

The part you fail to see:
IF you isolate a person from a crowded public event in a public space you go AGAINST the expectation of privacy, said all along.
HEY! RPavivh was there! look at him!!! IS a breach of privacy unless you are an 'exposure seeker' like a celebrity.

So how about a close up of a crowd at a football game? Expectation of privacy or not?

My gut says rpavich is closer to reality than you. Sorry but just my opinion.

xzoup Loc: Arkansas

Shoot first, I'm sorry second. I still ask at times.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5497/10301947985_8e70d4bf7b_z.jpg
7 by carricof, on Flickr

gopiqpp Loc: SAUDI ARABIA

Those of you in the UK and USA are so lucky in that you can walk about on the streets with your cameras taking pictures. In Saudi Arabia where I work that is an absolute no-no. You can get arrested and harassed by the cops, gear confiscated, and so on.
I have a considerable collection of cameras and lenses which just sit till I go back to India on vacation. :(

nekon Loc: Carterton, New Zealand

Street photography requires you to grow some cojones,and go face people-you will never grab a candid shot, if you ask first-preset camera on p-shift mode-go grab your shots-The ideal lens is a 35mm prime,(in FX terms-24mm for crop aps-c cameras) a telephoto will never make you a street photographer.

johnske Loc: Townsville

dennis2146 wrote:

My thoughts are if you ask permission you are not getting a street photograph. You are getting a posed photograph istead....

Exactly... Street is really all about candid photography - in fact i think it's defined as that in many places - and you certainly don't get candid when you ask permission, you get a posed and possibly awkward shot.

Try a long lens and be unobtrusive as possible i.e. you need to blend & disappear into the background. As for advice for shooting wide and shoving your camera in someones face - i consider that rude in the extreme and you would probably only get photos of very confused or scared looking ppl anyway - and let me say this ... if anyone did that to me, even tho i'm a photographer myself, unless they were really quick on their feet i'd be shoving the camera right back into the photographers face - very very HARD

cthahn

Blue Spark wrote:

I travel with my camera a good bit and am wanting ... (show quote)

You learned a good lesson. Quit often if you ask, you will get permission. You do not learn street photography in one day and not from driving around in a car.