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Nov 9, 2013 21:37:56   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
RDH wrote:
Most of the XS family can save in dng if CHDK has been installed. You might also wish to look into Light Room, it will open, process and convert most Raw formats before exporting to CC or Gimp. Another possibility is Rawtheropy a Lightroom look alike.


I hope to have LR soon. I am waiting for the copy of PS CS3 that I bought on ebay, so I can qualify for the 'photographers special' at adobe.

I saw a mention of CHDK in another post somewhere, but I don't understand just what it is...

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Nov 9, 2013 22:16:32   #
OonlyBonly
 
Doesn't Canon's Digital Photo Professional software come with that camera? That's the easiest way to work on your files in RAW format. Then if you want to save as TIF or other and send them to another PP program you can.
If you learn that program it will do a lot.

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Nov 9, 2013 22:36:10   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
OonlyBonly wrote:
Doesn't Canon's Digital Photo Professional software come with that camera? That's the easiest way to work on your files in RAW format. Then if you want to save as TIF or other and send them to another PP program you can.
If you learn that program it will do a lot.


Yes it does. I am just unsure exactly what my workflow is going to be, right now. To go all Adobe or not, that is the question? Whether 'tis nobler...

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Nov 10, 2013 00:00:52   #
RDH
 
I saw a mention of CHDK in another post somewhere, but I don't understand just what it is...[/quote]

CHDK, the Canon Hack Developers Kit, is an extension to the native Canon operating system. Google CHDK for a full explanation. It may not be available for the sx50. Where available it adds a number of features.

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Nov 10, 2013 00:11:38   #
GaryS1964 Loc: Northern California
 
Take a look at the free Raw Therapee. Opens RAW files which you can then process using it's own tools or save to TIF to process in another program.

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Nov 10, 2013 07:22:41   #
Elliern Loc: Myrtle Beach, SC
 
RDH wrote:
I saw a mention of CHDK in another post somewhere, but I don't understand just what it is...


CHDK, the Canon Hack Developers Kit, is an extension to the native Canon operating system. Google CHDK for a full explanation. It may not be available for the sx50. Where available it adds a number of features.[/quote]

If you go to the canon website forums, you can find out more about CHDK. It downloads to your SD card, not your camera. I am not sure if it is still only in beta or not for the sx50. There are instructions on how to download it in the forum section. People who have it think it is great.

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Nov 10, 2013 12:50:11   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
Bloke wrote:
Hi, I took my new SX50 out today for the first time - only got it last night. I was driving a bunch of daycare kids to a stable, so I thought it was a good chance to try it out.

Here are a couple of samples, including my first HDR attempt, made using the supplied DPP program. The horse moved between shots, but the program handled it well.
Most of the horse shots I took have kids in them, so I can't post them here.

Anyway, I have CS2, and I have been reading a book called "Camera Raw with CS2", or words to that effect. It says in there that Camera Raw will start as soon as you point Bridge at a folder which contains raw files. Well, it doesn't. Not only that, but the "open in Camera Raw" option on the menu is greyed out. Can anyone tell me what I am missing here? This is the first time I have had access to any raw files to try this out.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that the program I use for general viewing (Irfanview) handled the raw files with no problem at all. I didn't try to edit them in there, though.

My first impressions of the camera itself are a bit mixed. It is very small in the hands, but with all the extra controls it has over my little P&S, my thumb keeps selecting stuff accidentally. I had bracketting turned on for a while, until I could figure out how to turn it off again! Good job film is cheap! Also, the self-timer kept setting itself. I am sure I will get to grips with it, though.

I am impressed with the 'reach' of the lens, of course. The 3rd picture shows that quite well. My old camera has a whopping 5x zoom on it, so this is an embarrasment of riches in that regard!

I appreciate comments, but do bear in mind that this was just my first stumbling try, and it was freezing cold, too!
Hi, I took my new SX50 out today for the first tim... (show quote)

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Nov 10, 2013 12:52:51   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
You should be able to update the ACR files in CS2 to include the newer cameras/ If not, buy a copy of PS Elements 12- it'll have the latest ACR, and you can save the raw images as PSD files if you want to use them in Photoshop too.

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Nov 10, 2013 13:44:38   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
Elliern wrote:
If you go to the canon website forums, you can find out more about CHDK. It downloads to your SD card, not your camera. I am not sure if it is still only in beta or not for the sx50. There are instructions on how to download it in the forum section. People who have it think it is great.


That looks exceedingly complex to me... I think I want to learn how to use the camera 'as is' before trying to add extras. Besides, I don't like the idea of voiding the warranty on a complex electronic gadget that's only a few days old!

Thanks for the info, though. Maybe down the road a ways, I will come back to it.

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Nov 10, 2013 14:13:59   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
Bloke wrote:
(CHDK) looks exceedingly complex to me ... Maybe down the road a ways, I will come back to it.
Another option is 'Magic Lantern' - - available for many Canon models - dunno if it will work on the SX50, but as you've noted, is quite involved, has to be loaded from the memory card, and has a pretty steep learning curve. I haven't figured out how to use but half the stuff on my 7D - so ignorance will have to remain bliss for now.

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Nov 12, 2013 16:37:04   #
Wall-E Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
Bloke wrote:
Yeah, I wouldn't say I have *large* hands, but I guess they aren't small either. I had never really thought about the size factor, but having pretty much all the controls of a full-size slr on a body this small, well, they *have* to put them somewhere I guess. Being right-handed, it would have been easier for me if the controls were more over on the left - but I may change that opinion when I start using the features in earnest...


If you're bumping the controls a lot, then you're holding the camera wrong.
Cradle it in the palm of your left hand.
Curl the fingers of your right hand around the 'bulge' with the tip of your index finger gently resting on the shutter button.
There won't be any buttons anywhere near your fingers.

Google "DSLR camera holding technique". There will be plenty of images to peruse.

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Nov 12, 2013 17:12:36   #
haroldross Loc: Walthill, Nebraska
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Another option is 'Magic Lantern' - - available for many Canon models - dunno if it will work on the SX50, but as you've noted, is quite involved, has to be loaded from the memory card, and has a pretty steep learning curve. I haven't figured out how to use but half the stuff on my 7D - so ignorance will have to remain bliss for now.


'Magic Lantern' is for Canon DSLR cameras and CHDK is for some Canon point and shoot cameras. CHDK, the last time I checked, was still in the 'alpha' stage. If you were to use it, you would probably get frustrated with it since at this time it does slow the camera down. I have it installed on one SD card to experiment with. I used CHDK all the time on my SX-40 for the RAW support.

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Nov 12, 2013 17:36:50   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
Wall-E wrote:
If you're bumping the controls a lot, then you're holding the camera wrong.
Cradle it in the palm of your left hand.
Curl the fingers of your right hand around the 'bulge' with the tip of your index finger gently resting on the shutter button.
There won't be any buttons anywhere near your fingers.

Google "DSLR camera holding technique". There will be plenty of images to peruse.


I *know* how to hold it. The problem is not the left hand. The buttons are not anywhere near my fingers, they are under my thumb and right palm. This is a small camera, with a lot of controls, and they have to put them *somewhere*. I am not the only person to have this difficulty. The average dslr is considerably larger then the sx50, and consequently has more room in which to place its controls.

There is a small 'groove' in the top of the back, which is obviously intended for the right-hand thumb. Trouble is that it is in very close proximity to several buttons *and* the 'control wheel', for want of a better term.

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Nov 12, 2013 17:37:29   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
haroldross wrote:
'Magic Lantern' is for Canon DSLR cameras and CHDK is for some Canon point and shoot cameras.
Hi - - Harold - - appreciate the clarification - - I looked at Magic Lantern for my 7D - - it appeared to have several nice options - - but couldn't tell if it really offered anything I couldn't do better in Post with other programs. Just wondering if CHDK {when available} would offer the OP any significant additional capability for his SX50 ?

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Nov 12, 2013 18:13:44   #
Elliern Loc: Myrtle Beach, SC
 
Bloke wrote:
I *know* how to hold it. The problem is not the left hand. The buttons are not anywhere near my fingers, they are under my thumb and right palm. This is a small camera, with a lot of controls, and they have to put them *somewhere*. I am not the only person to have this difficulty. The average dslr is considerably larger then the sx50, and consequently has more room in which to place its controls.

There is a small 'groove' in the top of the back, which is obviously intended for the right-hand thumb. Trouble is that it is in very close proximity to several buttons *and* the 'control wheel', for want of a better term.
I *know* how to hold it. The problem is not the l... (show quote)


I agree...I hold the camera cradled in the palm of my left hand and the fingers around the grip area with index finger on the shutter. That leaves the fleshy area of the lower part of the right thumb and part of the right palm nudging the timer and often the menu button. I am getting better, but still hit that timer way more than I like. Same with the menu. Have to hit it again to make the menu go away.

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