Canon 5D mk iii help please
Oct 12, 2013 16:51:01 #
A week ago i bought a 5D mk iii once i had finished reading the manual i decided to test it out in the studio. now for the last 12 months i have been using a canon 60D and have mostly used the sames settings in the studio 100 ISO 1/200 F9.0. i use elinchrom flashes and use the elinchrom wireless trigger (EL-skyport speed)
now my issue is when i put these exact same setting in to the 5D i get the black band this has never happened with the 60D in fact i can shoot the 60D at 1/250 and still not get the band i have to drop the 5D to 0/125 to get rid of it, is this correct or is there a setting i am forgetting about i just find it odd that i can set a higher sync speed on a 60D than on a 5D mk iii. please help....
thanks
joe barton
now my issue is when i put these exact same setting in to the 5D i get the black band this has never happened with the 60D in fact i can shoot the 60D at 1/250 and still not get the band i have to drop the 5D to 0/125 to get rid of it, is this correct or is there a setting i am forgetting about i just find it odd that i can set a higher sync speed on a 60D than on a 5D mk iii. please help....
thanks
joe barton
Oct 12, 2013 17:01:57 #
Oct 12, 2013 17:11:31 #
Msiwc wrote:
Just curious..ck and make sure you are on first curtain?
I can not access the flash menu as i am not using a canon/compatible flash
Oct 12, 2013 17:20:15 #
Joelbarton87 wrote:
A week ago i bought a 5D mk iii once i had finishe... (show quote)
8-) 8-) 8-) Joe, it is a new body, it takes some effort on your part. Pop your fast-fifty on it and go shoot for a day, week, month, or whatever it takes. Learn the Mk3, it IS different. Some shooters have fits trying to connect with bodies that are not the same. In other words when you are shooting the 60, shoot THAT camera, and when you pick up your Mk3 that is what you are shooting. Shooting with one body while thinking about the other invites problems many people try to avoid. It can be done. Think of it like this: a man can have a wife AND a girlfriend, but he is asking for trouble when he gives the same perfume to each. Keep 'em separated, they are different animals. GL :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oct 12, 2013 17:23:17 #
Msiwc
Loc: Los Angeles
Maybe some kind of conflict with your trigger..should work at 1/200 try cleaning the contacts on the bottom of your trigger..rest camera to default settings in case some setting is messing with you..
Oct 12, 2013 17:26:16 #
In standard flash mode the 5D MKIII max sync speed is 1/200. With flashes that support High Speed-Sync (HSS) the 1/200 limitation is lifted. I have personally shot 1/1000. The banding you describe certainly sounds like a sync issue. I have never used a elinchrom flash but I suspect there is a compatability issue between the flash/triggers and the camera. To troubleshoot I would eliminate the trigger from the equation and try firing the flash (as long as the voltage is safe for your 5D) via the hotshoe . If that didin't work, I'd try a Canon Flash that supports HSS.
Oct 12, 2013 17:27:11 #
davidrb wrote:
8-) 8-) 8-) Joe, it is a new body, it takes some... (show quote)
this is a very cryptic reply. the only reason i can see for the black band happening is the difference in sensor size is this what you are trying to say ?
Oct 12, 2013 17:32:44 #
A-PeeR wrote:
In standard flash mode the 5D MKIII max sync spee... (show quote)
i have a 600 EX-RT flash unit already but this will be no good when out on location as using this would rely on the optical system and i need to radio trigger to get consistency
Oct 12, 2013 17:33:51 #
Msiwc
Loc: Los Angeles
Joelbarton87 wrote:
this is a very cryptic reply. the only reason i can see for the black band happening is the difference in sensor size is this what you are trying to say ?
I think he was implying you have not learned how to work the 5d3 yet..
Oct 12, 2013 17:41:37 #
Msiwc wrote:
I think he was implying you have not learned how to work the 5d3 yet..
i have not found the cross over that difficult this is the first problem i have encountered
Oct 12, 2013 17:45:22 #
Joelbarton87 wrote:
i have a 600 EX-RT flash unit already but this will be no good when out on location as using this would rely on the optical system and i need to radio trigger to get consistency
The 600 ex-rt triggers wirelessly or optically, but the wireless system isn't compatible with Elinchron. The wireless synch works fine even at high shutter speeds, but I have no idea why you would want to shoot at high shutter speeds in a studio where lighting is totally under your control. That seems to make no sense.
Oct 12, 2013 17:51:50 #
photoninja1 wrote:
The 600 ex-rt triggers wirelessly or optically, but the wireless system isn't compatible with Elinchron. The wireless synch works fine even at high shutter speeds, but I have no idea why you would want to shoot at high shutter speeds in a studio where lighting is totally under your control. That seems to make no sense.
the issue is when firing the elinchrom flashes not the speedlite. and 1/200 is not that fast and my main subjects are young children so with their tendency to move around alot a slower speed is not that useful
Oct 12, 2013 17:53:11 #
Joelbarton87 wrote:
A week ago i bought a 5D mk iii once i had finishe... (show quote)
You are right in thinking that you are getting the black band because of the sync speed issue.
The sync speed on a 5DIII is 1/200 so you are correct in wondering what is happening with the banding. It shouldn't do that.
The 60D has a 1/250 sync speed as you mentioned, which is why you didn't get a black band, you weren't supposed to! :)
I can't explain why your 5D won't go to the sync speed, for what it's worth...many people report that they have to drop the shutter speed down a notch to remove the black banding.
Oct 12, 2013 17:56:36 #
rpavich wrote:
You are right in thinking that you are getting the... (show quote)
Thank you sir/madam i have googled but no joy yet
Oct 12, 2013 18:02:29 #
Joelbarton87 wrote:
Thank you sir/madam i have googled but no joy yet
You are welcome!
(It was the least I could do...you gave us the Beatles) :)
Bob
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