mugwhump Loc: San Diego CA

Well said, Erv :thumbup: :thumbup:

mugwhump Loc: San Diego CA

Very true,but most people are not concerned about these little lives :thumbup:

raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC

Precisely. Put God back into the school system. At least its better than Johnny and Johnny getting married. The Bill of Rights in the 1st amendment states a freedom from religious persiciution....why does that freedom stop at the school building wall??

raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC

To the tune of about 3400 a day in the US.

Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az

I do believe you have lost sight of the meaning of the rights granted to you, within the Constitution. Many people have died to grant you those rights, and you, because it happened long ago seem to think so very little of the document and the lives spent developing that document. A cavalier attitude (haughty, disdainful, or supercilious: an arrogant and cavalier attitude toward others) .

You arrogance and lack of a coherent thoughts show through with as to what you say like: "I have a dozen guns, and no-one is threatening to take them away from me." "and keep the military weapons for the military!
Well are those with military weapons, to keep them or would you take - already purchased ones away. From the looks of it, you want them taken away. So you better be sure the dozen guns you have are not of the military type.
Oh if you have a 1911, or 38 or many other pistols - they are of military weapons. The old saying be careful of what you ask for, you just may get it.
"What can possibly be wrong with keeping guns away from known felons and head cases?

" How do you do that without background checks?"

"What can possibly be wrong with keeping guns away from known felons and head cases? How do you do that without background checks?"
Felons will buy guns on the black market, and for the head cases, ACLU has tied many hands on reporting on people because of privacy laws. The Naval yard incident, the perp was well established as one of your head cases, but his reporting of his mental condition was not allowed. He even had been guilty of shooting out a person's tires a few years earlier, proving what a head case he was. None of this was in his background.

"What possible purpose does a fifteen shell clip have except killing people? Who needs it?"
Well there is target practice, hunting rodents, etc., but the real reason for the need; The Constitution, you know that document that that you have little respect for, says I have a right. Just because you think narrow mindedly, does not mean others do. You may like chocolate, I don't - therefore lets ban it, because in a narrow minded way I have no use for it, and no one else should. After all it only makes you fat, and raises insurance rates, there is no need for it.

You may feel to give your rights away freely is your right. Well so be it, don't buy a 15 round mag. Don't expect others to have cavalier attitude like yours.

handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut

I previously stated something to this affect in possibly another forum. Use a gun in a crime do a mandatory 20 years, no plea bargaining, no early release. This would NOT, NOT, NOT run concurrent with the original crime. Get 15 years for bank robbery + 20 years and you are sitting there for 20 to 35 years. We should stop running these jails like country clubs and turn them back into a penal institution like they were meant to be. We found out the hard way that rehabilitation does not work. We have to show these bottom dwellers that it is NOT worth their time to use a gun in a crime. The stakes will be too high.

One of the main problems we have is with the Judicial System. We have to make these judges accountable for the criminals they put back on the street. They believe in the revolving door policy. We should take some of the low risk white collar criminals and put them in Prison Garb and make them do community service in the private sector as well as their own job, payying their own way instead of bleeding the system in jail. This would relieve some of the overcrowding for the real criminals. Just my opinion.

RichieC Loc: Adirondacks

I have several guns that are superior to "military grade" , but even if I didn't, I am not particularly afraid of these weapons- because I understand them... A .30-06 is superior to a 22 caliber AR14 and common.

No one is against nut cases from getting weapons or background checks except those who's real agenda is ultimately taking them away. The left needs the nut cases armed and killing- note how the AR14 was named the weapon of the Navy Yard shooter IMMEDIATELY- ... Piers Morgan had an entire show after this shooting declaring this class of weapon BE BANNED to prevent this from happening again! Proving he is the Idiot that he is. Trouble is it was a normal everyday hunting shotgun. Nobody had anything to fight it.

That is why they write these legislation's in such a way to infringe upon upstanding peoples rights so they will be voted down- then blame the NRA and the republicans.

Nut cases are the enemy of the NRA and gun owners everywhere, nut cases are the friends of the liberals who don't want anybody to have weapons of any sort for any reason at all and who main-stream and protect these nut cases to live outside of protective services. Liberals are practically giddy when their plan is "executed" and one of these events happen- what they immediately attack..anything but the real culprit, is proof.

Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az

Lets see in 1776 the Brits were kicked out of this country; in 1812 the Brits were kicked out of this country; now you want to invade again, over an issue that is of none of your affair.

But lets look deeper into the possibility of the UN coming to the US and straightening things out for us. Oh not for our debt, not for our lying politicians or any other of the many tribulations we are going through but for gun control.


To start: The US is the one who the UN relies on for most of its financial support. Who is going to pay for this incursion? The Brits? They are broke. Australians, or some small country in Africa especially one of the ones we just gave money to? It may get off the ground, but once the bills start pouring in, who will pay for it? China, Russia? Who?

Any of the UN incursions have been greatly staffed by the US military, so are we going to invade ourselves? Do you think our soldiers are going to shoot their relatives on the say so of the UN? We did in the Civil War, but that was a division within our own country. Japan attacked the US in WWII, even hurting us militarily with the first blind blow. But the might and will of the people overcame the obstacle, to eventually stomp their asses. Might not be politically correct, but tough, the truth hurts sometimes.

Our military is to protect our borders, from foreign and domestic enemies. If our representatives become treasonous, and complies to the UN, do you think the citizens wont rebel?

Which bring me to the point, isn't that exactly why the Second Amendment is in the Constitution. Don't you think the arms would really get used then.

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

larryg Loc: Central Wi.

I see your point Irv. I have a friend who is trying to sell his S&W 50 cal. to me but I am afraid twice. Once when I find out the cost of the ammo and twice when the recoil shatters these old brittle bones. They used it for a backup for archery bear hunts. Some guys just have too big a balls

raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC

Excuse me its 3,880 a day average since 1973; 40 years at 56,649,960 abortions.

pjarmit Loc: UK, now in Texas

"... Piers Morgan had an entire show after this shooting declaring this class of weapon BE BANNED to prevent this from happening again! Proving he is the Idiot that he is. Trouble is it was a normal everyday hunting shotgun. Nobody had anything to fight it."

And an idiot he is. There was talk of deporting him back to the UK.......so I asked a few of my Brit friends about that.
They said that they don't want him back!

MagicFad Loc: Clermont, FL

Henry Porter needs to butt out of America's business.

kjfishman Loc: Fulton MO

Unfortunately the U.S. Government has not learned the lessons Europe and the U.K have learned the hard way regarding immigration of Muslims. Also along the lines of what you said we the U.S. don't need to be sticking our noses where they don't belong. Syria comes to mind. That said our current administration gun control and foreign policy sucks. When Obama doesn't get his way he issues executive orders by passing congress.

nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL

I'll bet that you own a car that can go much faster than the speed limit, so using your thought process why do you need that!