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Jan 3, 2012 14:13:50   #
rdbroman
 
Took this picture with a telephoto lens with bounce flash and
ambient light. Candid approach as she was not aware of having
her picture taken. I personally like the contemplative positioning.
Would appreciate comments on lighting primarily and secondarily on the pose. Any other suggestions are obviously welcome.

Blonde hair glowing
Blonde hair glowing...

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Jan 3, 2012 14:48:22   #
haze99 Loc: Elizabethton TN
 
I really like the composition. The only negative thing is the overhead lighting has created an orange/yellow saturation. I hope you dont mind but I took the pic and edited it with selective color in cs5. just rried to tone down the yellow cast and add a little contrast.



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Jan 3, 2012 14:53:53   #
GordonB. Loc: St. Petersburg, Fl.
 
What's with the lipstick? She appears to be so very
young. Some lip color would be fine.
Of course, others will see this topic differently.

The girl is blessed with great hair color.

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Jan 3, 2012 15:46:54   #
rdbroman
 
GordonB. wrote:
What's with the lipstick? She appears to be so very
young. Some lip color would be fine.
Of course, others will see this topic differently.

The girl is blessed with great hair color.


You know this child. 9 years old going on 15. She was in a group of 10-15 girls. I took them all as the were.

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Jan 3, 2012 15:47:16   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
As noted the skin tone is a little off, it's because of the over head lighting is casting a funny colour. Every easily corrected in any number of editing programs.

I'm unsure of the pose, I can't put my finger on why, just something just doesn't "feel" right when I look at it. It just might be that I don't feel a connection with her (no eye contact).

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Jan 3, 2012 15:53:23   #
rdbroman
 
haze99 wrote:
I really like the composition. The only negative thing is the overhead lighting has created an orange/yellow saturation. I hope you dont mind but I took the pic and edited it with selective color in cs5. just rried to tone down the yellow cast and add a little contrast.


I don't mind editing. It teaches the lesson very well. You know the old picture vs. 1000 words effect.

This generates questions. With overhead fluorescent lighting and bounce ceiling flash I am getting this overall too yellow cast. If I try to use flash balance it comes out too blue.
In this case I reverted back to AWB which is of course off. Is there an easy in camera way to compensate (other than custom white balance)?
The next question is how to correct the color balance using either elements or lightroom3 as I do not have cs5?

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Jan 3, 2012 15:58:58   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
Correcting the colour cast is super easy in Lightroom (easier than any other program, in my opinion). In Lightroom go to the Develop section. In the "Basic" panel select the eye dropper tool, move that over to a section of the picture that should be white, black or neutral grey. Select it, the white balance with auto correct. (examples: white shirt, white of the eye, grey sidewalk, black pants, dark shadow, etc).

Now if you have a bunch of pictures that were taken and all have the same w/b issue you can batch process! Simple and easy!

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Jan 3, 2012 16:07:12   #
haze99 Loc: Elizabethton TN
 
You can use tungsten and florescent filters on your flash unit. One will be of a green color and the other orange. check this link out for More on this subject. http://www.photokaboom.com/photography/learn/tips/087_flash_filters.htm

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Jan 3, 2012 16:29:17   #
laskalass Loc: Land of the Midnight Sun
 
Yes, the lipstick on such a young subject makes it look ...well just posed and not right. Thats not the photographers fault, but the appealing thing about photographing children is their refreshing innocence. Here this child has such lovely hair and a shy pose with a slash of lipstick...looks off kilter, out of place somehow. JMHO~

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Jan 3, 2012 16:53:35   #
GordonB. Loc: St. Petersburg, Fl.
 
Does the background behind her head bother anyone
else but me? There are two choices: one, have all the
background the color it is or: have the darker color
that is behind her head which would add contrast to
the background and her hair.

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Jan 3, 2012 16:56:02   #
GordonB. Loc: St. Petersburg, Fl.
 
Does the background behind her head bother anyone
else but me? There are two choices: one, have all the
background the color it is from midway to the top or: have the darker color that is behind her head which would add contrast to the background and her hair.



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Jan 3, 2012 17:03:13   #
haze99 Loc: Elizabethton TN
 
MWAC wrote:
Correcting the colour cast is super easy in Lightroom (easier than any other program, in my opinion). In Lightroom go to the Develop section. In the "Basic" panel select the eye dropper tool, move that over to a section of the picture that should be white, black or neutral grey. Select it, the white balance with auto correct. (examples: white shirt, white of the eye, grey sidewalk, black pants, dark shadow, etc).

Now if you have a bunch of pictures that were taken and all have the same w/b issue you can batch process! Simple and easy!
Correcting the colour cast is super easy in Lightr... (show quote)


I'm quiet sure that won't work in such cases as this. The reason being is that you have two different light sources in this picture. 1) white light from the flash unit, and 2) orange light from the Fluorescent lighting of the room. That gives you two different colors of light hitting the subject. The camera and white balance software adjusts the overall picture leaving only one of the two light sources in correct white balance. the fix is to have both your flash and the florescent casting the same color so that the whole picture can be balanced according to an overall color casting being of the same color.

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Jan 3, 2012 17:41:27   #
GordonB. Loc: St. Petersburg, Fl.
 
Yes, it IS the photographer's fault. He could have demanded they wipe some of the color off her lips.
As for her not knowing she was being photographed,
I don't buy that for a second.

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Jan 3, 2012 17:45:09   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
WOW... refrain from making comments about a subjects appearance. It really is uncalled for, especially when the subject/model is a minor.

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Jan 3, 2012 17:53:53   #
haze99 Loc: Elizabethton TN
 
I think somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. There's no need to be rude just because you disagree Gordon. That's totally uncalled for.

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