Who gets credit for the shot? (Page 3): If someone else took the photo it is not a self portrait no matter what!

Terra Australis Loc: Australia

mariposa84 wrote:

Hello I am no photographer but would like to put m... (show quote)

If someone else took the photo it is not a self portrait no matter what!

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

ohallboyz wrote:

I did a shoot with my friend over the weekend. I ... (show quote)

I should think that you do. I've done the same thing for a portrait. My assistant merely sat where I'd be sitting so I could focus and do the exposure reading. We swapped places and she pressed the shutter release.

If you've ever watched Gregory Crewdson work, he has an entire staff of people working for him. He also has one person loading film in the camera and even pressing the shutter release. He merely creates the setting and then tells someone else to press the shutter. Yet, he is the artist and gets the credit for the photo.
-Bob

lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow

MT Shooter wrote:

YOUR camera, right?
If you have activated the Copyright feature of your body, then that copyright will be embedded in the EXIF data of the image, no question who owns the image then. I have the Copyright feature activated in every body I own, even my rentals, simple to do.

That gives me a pause.

Question: If you loan a camera to Annie Liebovitz, Ansel Adams or Shmo Beau from CoCoMo and they take a picture - are you telling me that you own the copyright.

What you are saying is that the photographer is irrelevant and you have the copyright because you are the owner of the camera.

On this one, I would like your source.

Terra Australis Loc: Australia

rmalarz wrote:

If you've ever watched Gregory Crewdson work, he has an entire staff of people working for him. He also has one person loading film in the camera and even pressing the shutter release. He merely creates the setting and then tells someone else to press the shutter. Yet, he is the artist and gets the credit for the photo.
-Bob

That is because those assistants are employed by him and paid by him.

amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN

Oh gee, give her credit for clicking! What does it hurt? She will be happy and you will be happy. It's not like she wants half the profits of the business, is it? And in the future, press your own shutter! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Mudshark Loc: Illinois

I'd use them sans attribution for your advertising...then file a suit against your company for using your image without a model release...please let me know when it goes to court...I'd like to be in back of the room....

MtnMan Loc: ID

ohallboyz wrote:

I did a shoot with my friend over the weekend. I ... (show quote)

Someone once said something like, "It's amazing what can be accomplished if we don't care who gets the credit".

Sorry, but I think it is a silly point and get annoyed by people messing up photos with names anyway.

mjmjam Loc: Michigan

use the self timer

CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver

lightchime wrote:

That gives me a pause.

Question: If you loan a camera to Annie Liebovitz, Ansel Adams or Shmo Beau from CoCoMo and they take a picture - are you telling me that you own the copyright.

What you are saying is that the photographer is irrelevant and you have the copyright because you are the owner of the camera.

On this one, I would like your source.

This is not "loaning a camera." This is setting up the whole shot and just having someone push a button.

Mudshark Loc: Illinois

Eventually you get past the ego boost of having your name on your photo...I am only interested in having my name on the check....

Hollywoodstuntkisser Loc: Lubbock, TX

You're supposed to be a proyou say you are. Simply get your tripod fixed, or borrow one and re-shoot similar shots at a different location. That eliminates all the copyright issues and avoids possibly hurting a friend's feelings and endangering a friendship.

lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow

MtnMan wrote:

Someone once said something like, "It's amazing what can be accomplished if we don't care who gets the credit".

Sorry, but I think it is a silly point and get annoyed by people messing up photos with names anyway.

I have to agree. It appears as though there was no issue and that the OP created one and the hogs have fallen into the trap one by one. Little relevance, much opinion and gobs of opinions (i.e., rhetoric without substance). And just think of all the comments by strangers when the person who snapped the shutter is bypassed.

Perhaps this should have been retitled: A Cerebral Look into a Tempest in a Teapot.

Hollywoodstuntkisser Loc: Lubbock, TX

You may have set up the shot but she composed it in camera and chose the moment to press the shutter.

lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow

CaptainC wrote:

This is not "loaning a camera." This is setting up the whole shot and just having someone push a button.

I don't disagree with you.

The comment was related to the quoted comment of MT Shooter:

MT Shooter wrote:
"YOUR camera, right?
If you have activated the Copyright feature of your body, then that copyright will be embedded in the EXIF data of the image, no question who owns the image then. I have the Copyright feature activated in every body I own, even my rentals, simple to do."

To me, he is saying that the one who enters the data on the camera (and he mentions his rentals) owns the copyright. Obviously, you also hold that the owner of the camera does not own the picture. The entry into the data bank of the camera has little to do with the capture and creativity.

riverlass Loc: northern California

Mogul wrote:

At the museum, I am often asked to take pictures o... (show quote)

I agree with this. Why would she want "credit" for snapping the shutter? I think there is more to this. Just talk to her... or retake the shots.
(Which museum? Do you work there?)