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Aug 14, 2013 11:49:58   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
Wow! And you doubt my intelligence. During the last century there were two competing theories about the universe --- the Big Bang (BB) and the Steady State (SS) that said that the universe had always existed. It was during the latter part of the century that "proof" was discovered that the universe was not pre-existent. That is why there is now an overwhelming consensus among astrophysicists for the BB.

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Aug 14, 2013 11:54:42   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
Wellhiem wrote:
And relegion has yet to present God as a tangable being. So we are left with inconclusive observable evidence, all of which supports evolution.


I know all about it. Pitching a being that is outside of the time/space/matter continuum who is by definition an invisible, spirit being is a bloody "hard sell." But then, it all started "somehow." Why did it start? Who knows --- maybe God is just a kid with an ant farm.

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Aug 14, 2013 12:03:05   #
lovesphotos Loc: Colorado and Arizona
 
Crwiwy wrote:
I thought that 'God created man in his own image' which was perfection. Then the Devil created woman to show him all his faults and to punish him 'for as long as he might live.'


Hold on now. Are you telling me devil can create also? What happened to the "God created evertything"? If devil also can create, then we must have more than one god. Especially when god can't do anything about what devil does, devil must be the real god or the supreme god.
Come to think of it, there has been more devilish things done in the name of the god than one can shake a stick at. Which brings me to think the devil is playing footsies with the god. Making people think it's all god's fault.
I think Ill start devil worshipping. You know, just in case....

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Aug 14, 2013 12:17:12   #
lovesphotos Loc: Colorado and Arizona
 
Snapdragon57 wrote:
Science has yet to be able to create life from non-life, so until that happens the claims of evolution as to the origins of life is but theory, not fact.


It's already a known fact that life can be created from non life. Every life came about from a mixture of chemical composition combined with a determined amount of heat.
Checkout "Abiogenesis".

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Aug 14, 2013 12:18:59   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
lovesphotos wrote:
Very well said. Without intelligence, we would have been still "happily" swinging from tree to tree.


Yes and I have known many ecstatically happy Chimps and Apes which I'm sure you have also loves. I'm just swingin along in the trees, singin a song with the breeze. :lol: :lol:

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Aug 14, 2013 12:32:17   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
lovesphotos wrote:
It's already a known fact that life can be created from non life. Every life came about from a mixture of chemical composition combined with a determined amount of heat.
Checkout "Abiogenesis".


Hmm --- "known fact".
"To date, scientists have not observed abiogenesis happening in nature, nor have they been able to create a lifeform through controlled experiments. In fact, reaction conditions resembling the Earth's early conditions have even failed to produce the most basic polymers that all lifeforms possess (protein, DNA, RNA, etc.). It is now understood that the probability of even a single protein forming through purely natural processes exceeds what is acceptable based on the law of probability."
The basic problem that I see with those "more intelligent" non-believing folks is that they haven't yet learned the difference between a "theory" and a "fact."

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Aug 14, 2013 13:03:48   #
mugwhump Loc: San Diego CA
 
Hal81 wrote:
I guess we will just have wait till the rapture to prove you very wrong.


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 14, 2013 13:07:05   #
Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
lovesphotos wrote:
It's already a known fact that life can be created from non life. Every life came about from a mixture of chemical composition combined with a determined amount of heat.


Even if true, that life CAN come from a chemical process, it is not necessarily dispositive of the question of how life originated. It is one possible, but not exclusionary, possibility.

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Aug 14, 2013 13:21:37   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
mugwhump wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup:


While waiting for the rapture what self administered sexual act will you be performing on yourself?

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Aug 14, 2013 13:21:48   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
cameraf4 wrote:
I know all about it. Pitching a being that is outside of the time/space/matter continuum who is by definition an invisible, spirit being is a bloody "hard sell." But then, it all started "somehow." Why did it start? Who knows --- maybe God is just a kid with an ant farm.


That's where astrophysicists are as much in the dark as less educated people. It is as hard to understand that the Universe started from nothingness as it is to consider that it was always there in one form or another. That's what a term like agnosticism, really meaning "I don't know", is a more acceptable term referring to how things began; or was there a beginning? Even the Higgs particle gets us nowhere. But the anthropomorphic idea of a God is even more hard to swallow.

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Aug 14, 2013 13:51:39   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Bangee5 wrote:
Slavery has nothing to do with free will. Since you can't tell the difference between the two there is no point in trying to explain.
And I thought atheists were intelligent.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Obviously you think that atheists are as dumb as you.
Free will is the ability of agents to make choices unconstrained by certain factors. Factors of historical concern have included metaphysical constraints and physical constraints, such as chains or imprisonment. -Wikipedia.

For example, in the religious realm, free will implies that individual will and choices can coexist with an omnipotent divinity. In the law, it affects considerations of punishment and rehabilitation.

Your theological training has exposed you to only one world view regarding free will. There are many definitions which you are not aware of because of your limited and bias indoctrination. GET OFF MY EARTH YOU EVOLUTIONARY MUTANT! YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO EXIST!

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Aug 14, 2013 14:08:50   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
cameraf4 wrote:
Actually, I have often been amused at the growing number of folks who do not believe in God, yet are adamant in their belief in ghosts or other "nocturnal nasties."
Or how many accept the "Big Bang" theory of the birth of the universe, but have no answer as to what (or who) "made that first domino fall" since a cornerstone of physics has always been that matter cannot be created out of nothing.
Or, finally, how many of them, when times get very dark, turn to prayer. Just who do they suppose is listening?
The current vogue seems to be that God is like an instruction manual --- we only pull-it-out as a last resort.
Actually, I have often been amused at the growing ... (show quote)

Your comments are totally pointless and unfounded. Post again when you have something to say. Don't waste everyone's time with your meaningless unsubstantiated nonsensical generalizations. If you are a Christian, I can see why. HELLO! ANYBODY HOME?

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Aug 14, 2013 14:15:23   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Croce wrote:
Wellheim is proof of evolution. I saw him just a couple of days ago and he was a bird. lol (but it's true) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh my god! Did F16 Club turn into a dog? I knew he wanted to because he always dreamed of sniffing assholes and licking balls. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Aug 14, 2013 14:18:51   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
Yes - you have these folks preaching prayers are answered and it is or was God's will and in the same breath saying if we don't believe in God we will not be saved - AGAIN I ASK WHO HAS GOD SAVED - my answer is - GOD HAS NEVER SAVED ANYONE.
In many cases man has saved them selves by making a choice that saves themselves

On Slaves - it was man's free will to enslave others-and WOW it even says slavery was OK in the Bible - or not to as shown by our Civil War. Slaves even had the free will to run or fight for trier freedom - which many did.


Wellhiem wrote:
Considering how fossils are formed and the probability of it happening, there is an abundance of evidence to support evolution. What evidence is there to support the guy in the sky lie? A God who allows millions to suffer untold hardship, for babies to die at birth or for thousands of of people to die a slow agonising death through having no access to clean water. Don't give me that crap about God having reasons we can't understand, that's just saying "I don't know what it is but I choose to believe in it".
Considering how fossils are formed and the probabi... (show quote)

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Aug 14, 2013 14:26:32   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Croce wrote:
Yes and I have known many ecstatically happy Chimps and Apes which I'm sure you have also loves. I'm just swingin along in the trees, singin a song with the breeze. :lol: :lol:
Sounds like SteveR and Bangee. The intellectual missing links.

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