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Aug 14, 2013 08:37:19   #
Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
I think the problem with both evolution and creationism is that they both mistake a process for a cause.
I believe that evolution is the formal cause of life as we know it. I also believe that evolution tells us nothing about the efficient cause of life on earth.

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Aug 14, 2013 09:02:34   #
jcave Loc: Cecilia, Kentucky
 
jcjr8, great point. On the pleasure/fun/happiness/joy scale I think that despite such things as intellect, wealth, fitness and health, we often put limits on our own ability to achieve those things that would bring joy to our lives. While there are many paths up the mountain, a good many don't go the full distance. I personally suspect that those involving sharing and giving offer the best chances of reaching the summit.

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Aug 14, 2013 09:52:04   #
sawcat
 
I agree that I'm not the sharpest tack in the box but my wife graduated number one from both her high school and college and she is a very sincere Christian person.
My daughtor graduated number one from her unergraduate college and in the top 10 from Southwestern Theological Seminary and is now a children's minister in a north Fort Worth, Texas Church. They probably just didn't get the word that it isn't smart to believe in God.
David in Brady

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Aug 14, 2013 10:01:15   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Hal81 wrote:
I guess we will just have wait till the rapture to prove you very wrong.


You'll be waiting a very long time...



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Aug 14, 2013 10:16:01   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
sawcat wrote:
I agree that I'm not the sharpest tack in the box but my wife graduated number one from both her high school and college and she is a very sincere Christian person.
My daughtor graduated number one from her unergraduate college and in the top 10 from Southwestern Theological Seminary and is now a children's minister in a north Fort Worth, Texas Church. They probably just didn't get the word that it isn't smart to believe in God.
David in Brady


Secular schools far outshine Theological Seminaries intersperse science with mythology.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Aug 14, 2013 10:20:55   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
RixPix wrote:
You'll be waiting a very long time...


The Rapture! The Insanity! I knew people, quite well, who actually believed in that fairy tale. Pathetic. The failure of that alone, should be enough to convince people of the folly of their belief. But of course it was not. I know .... they had the date screwed up. Uhuh.

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Aug 14, 2013 10:33:47   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
Snapdragon57 wrote:
Evolution which states that all life sprang from one cell organisms that slithered out from a primordial soup is not fact, its theory. You or no one else can prove it's validity. My belief in the God of creation is as valid as your evolution. Tell me, where is the fossil record of all this miraculous evolution? Can you explain the absence of this fossil record? Why is there no fossil record of these evolutionary wonders? Could it be they do not not exist? Divergent evolution in regards to the beginning of all life forms is a crock of crap. Prove me wrong! Show me the proof.
Evolution which states that all life sprang from o... (show quote)


Considering how fossils are formed and the probability of it happening, there is an abundance of evidence to support evolution. What evidence is there to support the guy in the sky lie? A God who allows millions to suffer untold hardship, for babies to die at birth or for thousands of of people to die a slow agonising death through having no access to clean water. Don't give me that crap about God having reasons we can't understand, that's just saying "I don't know what it is but I choose to believe in it".

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Aug 14, 2013 10:40:14   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Bangee5 wrote:
People have always had free will.?

I guess you've never heard of slavery.

Bangee5 wrote:
Do you have children Ray? Do you make them love you, punish them if they don't or do they love you of their own free will??
My children love me unconditionally. They treat me with great respect. They will willingly do anything I ask and that's an order.

Bangee5 wrote:
You are going to ask, will God punish me if I don't love him. To that I would say no, he won't but will he send you to hell if you reject him? That is for you to decide. That is free will.
No, I'm not going to ask. I'm glad you have all the facts. That direct line to god must come in handy when your cell phone battery goes dead. Bangee, your so full of it you make SteveR look like he just took an enema.

Bangee5 wrote:
It does not matter if you believe in God or a god or not. It does not matter if you believe in a heaven or a hell or not. If you choose to reject God then what does it matter?
I guess nothing matters to you. It matters to me to search for the truth and reject a mythological concept that was in existence hundreds of years before Jesus was born. Rejecting blind stupidity is what I do and you are at the top of my list. Your utter nonsense and arrogance is beyond human comprehension.

Bangee5 wrote:
As long as you are having fun mocking every one and making a mockery of yourself in the process, what does anything matter?
Exactly. Now you're getting the point.

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Aug 14, 2013 11:13:16   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Bangee5 wrote:
People have always had free will?


magicray wrote:
I guess you've never heard of slavery.


Slavery has nothing to do with free will. Since you can't tell the difference between the two there is no point in trying to explain.
And I thought atheists were intelligent.

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Aug 14, 2013 11:13:17   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
Actually, I have often been amused at the growing number of folks who do not believe in God, yet are adamant in their belief in ghosts or other "nocturnal nasties."
Or how many accept the "Big Bang" theory of the birth of the universe, but have no answer as to what (or who) "made that first domino fall" since a cornerstone of physics has always been that matter cannot be created out of nothing.
Or, finally, how many of them, when times get very dark, turn to prayer. Just who do they suppose is listening?
The current vogue seems to be that God is like an instruction manual --- we only pull-it-out as a last resort.

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Aug 14, 2013 11:20:25   #
BlowingBubbles Loc: Texas
 
bunuweld wrote:
There are so many fossil records that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming. Unlike religions, with many different gods and doctrines for different groups, evolution is a universal fact with uniform agreement from scientists of all cultures. I cannot give you the proof that you ask for in one paragraph. If you want the facts, I suggest that you enroll on a university course on the subject. By the way, evolutionists don't massacre each other to prove their point, as ALL religions have done throughout history'.

Faith means not wanting to know what is true.
There are so many fossil records that the evidence... (show quote)


Science has yet to be able to create life from non-life, so until that happens the claims of evolution as to the origins of life is but theory, not fact.

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Aug 14, 2013 11:29:16   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
cameraf4 wrote:
Actually, I have often been amused at the growing number of folks who do not believe in God, yet are adamant in their belief in ghosts or other "nocturnal nasties."
Or how many accept the "Big Bang" theory of the birth of the universe, but have no answer as to what (or who) "made that first domino fall" since a cornerstone of physics has always been that matter cannot be created out of nothing.
Or, finally, how many of them, when times get very dark, turn to prayer. Just who do they suppose is listening?
The current vogue seems to be that God is like an instruction manual --- we only pull-it-out as a last resort.
Actually, I have often been amused at the growing ... (show quote)


Oh what utter horeshit. If god always was why not the universe. You refuse to admit the fallacy of the god always was nonesense by creating a man like thing that preexisted the universe. All right if that's the case where did he live? In heaven. Well if heaven is so good why was god not satisfied and have a need to create the universe? I could go on forever with this utter nonesense. Freddy Neitzsche, had it right, "and man created god in his own image." And they all lived in poverty, and disease, and pestilence and plague and war and insanity ever after.

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Aug 14, 2013 11:29:33   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
Snapdragon57 wrote:
Science has yet to be able to create life from non-life, so until that happens the claims of evolution as to the origins of life is but theory, not fact.


And relegion has yet to present God as a tangable being. So we are left with inconclusive observable evidence, all of which supports evolution.

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Aug 14, 2013 11:33:05   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
Wellhiem wrote:
And relegion has yet to present God as a tangable being. So we are left with inconclusive observable evidence, all of which supports evolution.


Wellheim is proof of evolution. I saw him just a couple of days ago and he was a bird. lol (but it's true) :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Aug 14, 2013 11:40:13   #
lovesphotos Loc: Colorado and Arizona
 
Croce wrote:
Your point is well taken, thank you. I never stated how much credence I placed in the validity of this study. I only stated I found it interesting. I also stated I would help explain what it said. Not what it meant.

Your statement above, " Intelligence is of such minor value to contentment and joy that it is scarcely worth the time to read this worthless "study", is really more interesting than the study. It is also a lot easier to uphold with current proof. After all, insane asylums are full of seemingly happy people wandering around grinning and laughing all the time. Also I am told, frontal lobotomies produce a similar sense of calm wonderment and contentment.
Your point is well taken, thank you. I never state... (show quote)


Very well said. Without intelligence, we would have been still "happily" swinging from tree to tree.

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