P/P is it only for bad photogrpaher? Good ones don't need it?
Dec 27, 2011 23:02:30 #
Yes, good photographers use photo processing "P/P".
All digital photos are processed. It just depends on if you want to shoot JPEC and have the camera make the choices, or shoot in P, T S or M and be creative. It takes both the camera setup, and the P/P to produce better images. In addition to that, if photography is a businesss, you need to produce the best, this reqires P/P. If you are a non- professional, it is a lot of fun and challenge to learn how to do the jillion things in P/P.
Point and shoot pictures, printed at Costco are great for remembering a birthday, camping trip, etc., but to make a portrait or a landscape, or macro of a flower, suitable to hang on your wall, or give to a friend, Raw and P/P add a lot. elderjim
All digital photos are processed. It just depends on if you want to shoot JPEC and have the camera make the choices, or shoot in P, T S or M and be creative. It takes both the camera setup, and the P/P to produce better images. In addition to that, if photography is a businesss, you need to produce the best, this reqires P/P. If you are a non- professional, it is a lot of fun and challenge to learn how to do the jillion things in P/P.
Point and shoot pictures, printed at Costco are great for remembering a birthday, camping trip, etc., but to make a portrait or a landscape, or macro of a flower, suitable to hang on your wall, or give to a friend, Raw and P/P add a lot. elderjim
Dec 27, 2011 23:12:26 #
Big Bear, not to be argumentive, but if you only shoot one image, how do you adjust exposure for dark and light. Digital cameras cannot do both in one shot. HDR does that, if you take several shots at different exposure settings. In multiple shots, changing apature will affect Depth of field, which causes blurring if the shots are layered. elderjim.
Dec 27, 2011 23:19:40 #
I doubt you will find anyone, who hates PP any more than I do. That is why I limit my shots, on outings to a minimum. If you only shoot JPG, and carefully compose your shot, you may get by with minimal PP. Never the less, I have seen very few photographs that could not be improved, with some touch up work.
As far as creating from several shots, something that was never there, I leave that to those who enjoy such stuff. I call that digital art, not photography. Ansel Adams did not create subjects, he created light in the darkroom.
HDR's excepted, this is another subject, so is Infrared.
As far as creating from several shots, something that was never there, I leave that to those who enjoy such stuff. I call that digital art, not photography. Ansel Adams did not create subjects, he created light in the darkroom.
HDR's excepted, this is another subject, so is Infrared.
Dec 27, 2011 23:25:12 #
steve40 wrote:
I doubt you will find anyone, who hates PP any mor... (show quote)
if you are refering to my post i didn't say created subjects i say he played with some his photos what i have read about him didn't an an dont remember what he did just that he played
Dec 27, 2011 23:30:20 #
Pepper
Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
This is something a few of you may find interesting or maybe entertaining. My nephew was home for Christmas, he's a photographer in CA and has been for some 17 years. When he's on a typical Hollywood shoot it's all about getting the shot close. He's mostly concerned with focusing. He tells me he rarely sees most of his shots they all go to a lab where a team of PP techs take over. Many of the PP techs couldn't tell you which end of the camera you mount the lens on but they are magical when it comes to PP.
Dec 27, 2011 23:40:06 #
I wasn't pointing out anyone's post. Just what Adams did, in his PP work.
Dec 27, 2011 23:51:00 #
Pepper wrote:
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thats why i never go movies ANYmore nothings real all green screen. wonder if they even have stunt men anymore. last movie was lion king
Dec 27, 2011 23:51:28 #
Dec 27, 2011 23:53:15 #
Elderjim wrote:
Yes, good photographers use photo processing "... (show quote)
As an example, this image bears little relation to the shot I took. I removed the part of a barn, cropped for a more pleasing composition, removed some of her hair that was sticking out under her chin, increased the detail in the sky, increased detail in her hat and shirt, put a catchlight in the horse's eye that it needed, placed some texture at the bottom of the horse's eye by taking a photo of a rock making it REALLY small, pasting into the eye and lowering the opacity.
I did some other stuff to the bridle and bit to make those very detailed as well.
It has done very well.
Dec 27, 2011 23:55:47 #
Dec 28, 2011 00:17:16 #
RMM wrote:
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Well said....and on that note I'm also turning in :)
Dec 28, 2011 00:40:14 #
Just grab any magazine on the newstands today and look at the pics inside. I think you would be very hard-pressed to find a single pic that hadn't been Photoshopped to some extent.
I once read that Ansel Adams sometimes spent days dodging and burning his prints in the darkroom trying to get just the right effect and balance to present the image that he was trying to present. He also carried several shades of colored filters to put on his lenses to assist in getting the effect he wanted in the field, mostly red shades to dramatize the clouds in his B&W shots.
Photo manipulation has been going on almost as long as photography itself. Today we mostly do it in out digital darkroom, but its essentially the same thing, enhancement and correction.
I once read that Ansel Adams sometimes spent days dodging and burning his prints in the darkroom trying to get just the right effect and balance to present the image that he was trying to present. He also carried several shades of colored filters to put on his lenses to assist in getting the effect he wanted in the field, mostly red shades to dramatize the clouds in his B&W shots.
Photo manipulation has been going on almost as long as photography itself. Today we mostly do it in out digital darkroom, but its essentially the same thing, enhancement and correction.
Dec 28, 2011 00:42:56 #
MT Shooter wrote:
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i've read he did quite a bit.. hey if its there use it
Dec 28, 2011 01:00:13 #
dirtpusher wrote:
bet even horse be happy with that
Actually, the horse wanted a color shot to send to his Mommy. When he saw the B/W, he went back to the barn, and hasn't come out since.
Dec 28, 2011 01:02:50 #
RMM wrote:
Actually, the horse wanted a color shot to send to his Mommy. When he saw the B/W, he went back to the barn, and hasn't come out since.
dirtpusher wrote:
bet even horse be happy with that
Actually, the horse wanted a color shot to send to his Mommy. When he saw the B/W, he went back to the barn, and hasn't come out since.
ok lol too funny... hey RMM may i buddy list you so can look at more youre pictures they some impressive shots
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