Returning Camera to Adorama (Page 5): I have been generally satisfied with Adorama. They have good prices and fast delivery. I had one rather small issue with them and Helen Oster...

MtnMan Loc: ID

skydiverbob wrote:

They do hassle you a little bit. I stopped buying from them years ago because their overall store attitude started sucking bad. Now I only buy from B&H. They are the coolest and hassle free...

I have been generally satisfied with Adorama. They have good prices and fast delivery.

I had one rather small issue with them and Helen Oster straightened it out.

I have found some variability in their service people's concept of customer service. I also think they suffer a bit because they are in New York and hire locals. New Yorkers tend to come across as brusque to many people from other parts of the country. I am from nearby New Jersey and had to be reeducated when I moved out west. Of course B&H draws from the same workforce. Be thankful they aren't in Paris.

CSI Dave Loc: Arizona

TedPaul wrote:

Do you have a suggestion as to which camera would be a good fit with my Leica M lens. I am waiting for an M240 and am W/O a camera. I have 3 M lens and 4 R's suggestions?

There are inexpensive adapters available for several of the ILC (interchangeable lens compacts, aka mirrorless) brands. I went with the Sony NEX series, primarily because the m4/3 systems have a crop factor of 2x, whereas the NEX had the APS-C sensor with a 1.5x crop. This made the "equivalent" focal length of my old lenses more usable for my tastes. The NEX 7 wasn't out yet, but that's a good option now (with an important caveat, which I'll reference toward the end). The downside of the 5n, I think, is the lack of viewfinder, so that was a mandatory added expense for me. The NEX 6 is nice because it's built in.

I use the NEX 5n with an exakta adapter, which allows me to use my old Zeiss, Topcon, Angenieux, Meyer lenses with great results. For kicks, I got a Hasselblad V-mount adapter to use the Zeiss lenses from my 500C. While it's fun to play with and gives sharp(!) results, it looks ridiculous and is impractical to carry around such a big lens with the little 5n hanging off the back :)

I don't have any M lenses, but the guys at Luminous Landscape have used M lenses with the NEX cameras with generally positive results. (That caveat has to do with the 24mp sensor of the NEX 7 and purple fringes on the corners using certain lenses). This is a good read:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_rolling_review.shtml#legacy

TedPaul Loc: Madison, MS

CSI Dave wrote:

There are inexpensive adapters available for sever... (show quote)

TedPaul Loc: Madison, MS

CSI Dave Thank you for your time and input. I have checked into a Fuji, Olympus as well as the 5n. The 5n seems to make sense with an EVF. Thanks again. Wonder when I will see the M

TedPaul Loc: Madison, MS

CSI Dave,I have M lens 35, 50 and 90 my Rs are 50,135, 28/70 and a very long fixed 8-500. Whatever I buyI may keep as a back up.

CSI Dave Loc: Arizona

TedPaul wrote:

CSI Dave Thank you for your time and input. I have checked into a Fuji, Olympus as well as the 5n. The 5n seems to make sense with an EVF. Thanks again. Wonder when I will see the M

Had I been looking now, I would have checked out the Fuji and Oly, too. At the time I got the 5n there were much fewer choices out there. I do have to say that the focus peaking is very very nice to have when using manual focus lenses. I now consider it an essential feature in a compact camera. I don't recall off the top of my head if the Fuji or Olympus offer focus peaking. I do wish the NEX had a sensor-based image stabilizer, though.

Remember, the 5n EVF assessory is expensive, hangs off the camera like a wart and begs to get caught on jacket pockets and gear bags. That reason alone might make the NEX 6 a better option now.

CSI Dave Loc: Arizona

TedPaul wrote:

CSI Dave,I have M lens 35, 50 and 90 my Rs are 50,135, 28/70 and a very long fixed 8-500. Whatever I buyI may keep as a back up.

Nice collection of glass. I'd be anxious to get the M body, too!

TedPaul Loc: Madison, MS

CSI Dave wrote:

Nice collection of glass. I'd be anxious to get the M body, too!

with those on the market today, what would you consider a good way to go. I have considered a zoom kit lens with which ever way I do go. I have a feeling you have more knowledge and experience than I. I have owned an R8--M8 and that is it. I thin k I would probably not want to use leica all the time although with the M8 i pretty well kept the 50mm on most of the time. Thanks

CSI Dave Loc: Arizona

TedPaul wrote:

with those on the market today, what would you consider a good way to go. I have considered a zoom kit lens with which ever way I do go. I have a feeling you have more knowledge and experience than I. I have owned an R8--M8 and that is it. I thin k I would probably not want to use leica all the time although with the M8 i pretty well kept the 50mm on most of the time. Thanks

I'm sure we've officially hijacked this thread by now. Sorry to the OP, but in the spirit of all good discussions, side bars are a good thing :) TedPaul, feel free to PM me or start a new thread so we don't stray too far from the original post. I'm not sure how to answer you exactly. I have the zoom kit lens with my NEX 5n, but I never have used it. I bought it with the sole intention of using my old manual focus lenses, and I've really enjoyed it. However, I have a (relatively) full set of autofocus prime and zooms for my DSLR, so I only use the NEX setup when I want to slow down and use primes and manual focus in a small package. You're changing crop factors from the old M8 to the M, so I don't know if you'll still prefer to keep your 50mm most of the time or not. As always, it depends on what you want to shoot, please elaborate. On my 5n, I typically use a 24, 28, or 35mm, which, with the 1.5x crop gives me a slightly wide to normal angle of view. The 50/1.4 Topcon lens is absolutely brilliant, but I find it's a little long for general use with the the APS-C sensor. The Zeiss 20mm I have is nice, too, but quite large to carry in the pocket for casual street shooting.

Overall, there are tons of variables to your question, so it's hard for me to say much else without further input.
cheers!

HelenOster Loc: New York

grtday wrote:

......there was no one who really took ownership to expedite the issue.
IMHO, Adorama is not the easiest company to deal with.....

I'm sorry that you weren't aware of my existence, as for sure I'd have ensured you were taken care of.

Although it sounds as though this was resolved, eventually, it would be helpful if you could forward me details: Helen@adorama.com so I can firstly see what went wrong with something that SHOULD be a straightforward process, and what needs to be done to try to ensure this doesn't happen again.

HelenOster Loc: New York

skydiverbob wrote:

They do hassle you a little bit. I stopped buying from them years ago because their overall store attitude started sucking bad.......

I was sorry to see this; while I can't promise that we get everything 100% correct 100% of the time, if your previous purchases from us were prior to 2008 then I fully understand why you may have experienced issues - and can assure you that for a multitude of reasons, Adorama is not the company it was back then.

HelenOster Loc: New York

MtnMan wrote:

I have been generally satisfied with Adorama. They have good prices and fast delivery.

I had one rather small issue with them and Helen Oster straightened it out......I also think they suffer a bit because they are in New York and hire locals. New Yorkers tend to come across as brusque to many people from other parts of the country.....

Wonder if that is why I got my job? (I'm British by birth!!)

TedPaul Loc: Madison, MS

CSI Dave. I am responsible for messing up the thread. Will not happen again. I pm'ed you.

MtnMan Loc: ID

HelenOster wrote:

Wonder if that is why I got my job? (I'm British by birth!!)

Just don't be corrupted by the New York accent and mannerisms! Most Amercians do indeed love the British way of speaking.

PhotoBiker Loc: Charleston, SC

Thanks Adorama, you're the best! Returned my camera on Thursday p.m. and got my full refund on Monday. Now that's speedy service.