W/R A Portrait in the Gardens
Jul 26, 2013 20:35:00 #
Jul 26, 2013 21:30:34 #
christofras wrote:
Think It is your "lack of knowledge" winterrose!
Oh gawd, another disruptive, brainless twerp with nothing to say surfaces.
Jul 26, 2013 22:02:54 #
Winterrose,I think, if you would give your "help" only when asked for it, you could eliminate most of the friction you currently seem to stir up on this forum. In addition I would add that when you encounter criticism here the worst thing you can do is respond in the same way. You will not "win"! Simply agree to disagree, move on and then ignore any further responses from your critic. The way you are responding now the argument continues, seemly forever and wastes everyone's time, yours, your adversary and the rest of us. Give it a try and we'll see if things don't run a little smoother. ......... Coot
By the way, as I was proof reading this I realized I'm doing exactly what I reccomended that you not do,give advice when It wasn't asked for, but I assure you, if you blast me for it, I will simply move on. ....... Coot
By the way, as I was proof reading this I realized I'm doing exactly what I reccomended that you not do,give advice when It wasn't asked for, but I assure you, if you blast me for it, I will simply move on. ....... Coot
winterrose wrote:
Socrotic Methode; "A pedagogical technique in... (show quote)
Jul 26, 2013 22:32:32 #
Lazy Old Coot wrote:
Winterrose,I think, if you would give your "h... (show quote)
Thank you Coot, and no, rather than blast you I wish to thank you for your kind advice.
As for this unfortunate "wabbit" character and a few other small-minded individuals, if my attempt at some sort positive contribution for a better understanding for novices to this hobby is perceived to be of some value then I am pleased to continue but if this be the case is would be heartening to receive some degree of support or approval.
Unlike other notables, I do not, by any means whatsoever, feel the need to spend my time writing for or to this forum in an attempt to gain notoriety.
If some of you find my threads to be of some value I would be pleased for some positive feedback.
Now that would be refreshing.
Cheers, Rob.
Jul 26, 2013 22:37:02 #
Wabbit
Loc: Arizona Desert
winterrose wrote:
Thank you Coot, and no, rather than blast you I wi... (show quote)
Ho hum ..... what a load of poppycock .....
.....
Jul 26, 2013 22:50:20 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
lighthouse wrote:
No - you don't feel sorry for me.
You love starting arguments and then playing the "poor hurt puppy".
You love starting arguments and then playing the "poor hurt puppy".
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Jul 26, 2013 23:04:34 #
Danilo wrote:
I would take another white balance reading. Your light source is the same, granted, but you also have residual light reflecting from the flowers that will influence your color balance. Much the same as the green grass would have been effecting your color balance while you were on the grass.
Think he might be on more than the grass Dan.
Jul 27, 2013 01:25:12 #
Jul 27, 2013 02:16:37 #
I would say no, not unless the light source had changed color, the color of the objects in the photo should not matter, unless you are worried about all those colorful flowers becoming a secondary light source. In that case it could be an interesting question and the answer would be go ahead and set a custom white balance(according to the manual you can use a gray card or a white card) for that particular lighting situation. The first time I set my camera for custom white balance it was confusing but once I got familiar it I could do it at will and the pictures turned out just right. In that situation though I would do both and see which looks best.
winterrose wrote:
You are photographing your model in the botanic gardens.
It is bright sunshine. She is sitting on the grass getting ready to pose. You take a white balance calibration in the usual way. You take several photographs which look fine then you decide to move your model for some photographs among a large bed of orange poppies and still in bright sunshine. Should you take another white balance calibration?
It is bright sunshine. She is sitting on the grass getting ready to pose. You take a white balance calibration in the usual way. You take several photographs which look fine then you decide to move your model for some photographs among a large bed of orange poppies and still in bright sunshine. Should you take another white balance calibration?
Jul 27, 2013 02:25:09 #
georgevedwards wrote:
I would say no, not unless the light source had ch... (show quote)
"unless you are worried about all those colorful flowers becoming a secondary light source" Those are key words. In this case the proximity of the bright orange secondary light source would very likely influence the white balance of the subject. Rob.
Jul 27, 2013 04:11:26 #
But if you changed the white balance of the subject, so that the flesh tones are correct, the rest of the picture could be off, like the sky. Which might not matter if you are cropping close up, so the only surrounding areas are the flowers. But then the flowers might be off. I do not think there is any way to predict the perfect picture, you may want some reflected light on the subject. It is such an unusual situation I would try at least two or three different methods and decide afterwards which is the preferred result. But if you don't have all that time, the suggestion of just doing RAW and adjusting white balance later might make better sense. So the lesson may be that RAW is not affected by in camera white balance adustments? Changing white balance settings before you take the shot will not affect the RAW file, only the JPEG file? I would like to test that out on my camera sometime.
winterrose wrote:
"unless you are worried about all those colorful flowers becoming a secondary light source" Those are key words. In this case the proximity of the bright orange secondary light source would very likely influence the white balance of the subject. Rob.
Jul 27, 2013 04:28:12 #
georgevedwards wrote:
I would say no, not unless the light source had ch... (show quote)
Thanks for that - the learning curve
Jul 27, 2013 04:42:44 #
georgevedwards wrote:
But if you changed the white balance of the subjec... (show quote)
George, my entire motive in these threads is to get people thinking. There is no one set of settings for any situation and many, many variables in every one of each. Knowing the variables and having the knowledge and experience of how to juggle them in order to achieve your desired result is where true creativity can be let rip! Cheers, Rob.
Jul 27, 2013 06:33:21 #
Just to advise that although I had written and collated a number of what I believed were potentially informative pieces for this photography forum, due to the vitriolic, hateful and personally demeaning responses I have received as a result of the initial three, I consider it in the best interests of this forum to withhold those further contributions. Rob.
Jul 27, 2013 08:52:10 #
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