Joyfullee wrote: "All born again believer's are "predestined" to be transformed into the image of Jesus."
If so, then others are "predestined" to be left behind.
Sounds like a fickle God to me.
Bangee5 wrote, "Is that any different than what Baptist believe. Before I was born God knew me..."
I found this interesting piece on it: What do Southern Baptists believe about Predestination?
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/4719/what-do-southern-baptists-believe-about-predestination.
I got started on this because so many christians I know hold very different beliefs on salvation - all from the same bible.
I have friends that believe that salvation is a gift from God and he gives it only to whom he chooses - predestination.
Others believe salvation is open to all, just put your faith in Jesus and you are home free forever after.
While others believe salvation is open to all, just put your faith in Jesus BUT, while Jesus has forgiven you once and for all, you must atone for your sins daily.
There are some that say we must hear the name of Jesus to be saved.
And some believe that all will be saved at the day of judgment but I am not able to find any justification for that one. If you have one, I would like to hear it.
I know several at a small, baptist like, church that say their only obligation is to say to them the name, "Jesus," and if they do not accept; as my former friend said, very gleefully, with a loud laugh in his voice, "Then THEY will burn in Hell for eternity."
Obviously all cannot be correct.
Yes, I DO like discussing religion.
But only with those willing to defend their faith.
Yes, I am a "Doubting Thomas" but God has done some things in my life that make it impossible to deny the existence of God.
And I heartily dislike those that use God for their political ends.
I know no one would believe the story about "false prophets" in Revelation could apply to them, but if they just parrot what their minister tells them or what they hear in a bible study, and not do a bit of research on their own, they might be the "deceived elect."
Joyfullee wrote: "All born again believer's a... (