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"I shoot only for myself"
Dec 19, 2011 17:14:24 #
arteest
Loc: Arizona since 2007
I understand this... to me it is the difference in whether or not you are trying to sell the result. It's always nice to have people appreciate your work. When I quit trying to sell oil paintings I was a lot happier and my painting got better.
Dec 19, 2011 18:04:50 #
hlmichel wrote:
quote=Roger Hicks This is a common claim, and to ... (show quote)
In my opinion, this is the best answer!
Dec 19, 2011 20:35:07 #
JustBNme
Loc: The Darkside...
Roger Hicks wrote:
OK, I sort of understand. But the first two respon... (show quote)
Mr. Hicks
i know EXACTLY what you mean. I have a friend who used to ask for my help when he had a problem with his truck,(my dad was an ASE certified master mechanic and taught me a lot about vehicles before he passed away). He kept having the same problem and would ask me and others what was wrong, then he would do what everyone else said to do. After about 3 years and spending $3500.00 chasing the problem he sold it to a guy he worked with. Last summer his friend drove the truck to a cookout and when my friend asked if it was fixed he said yes...A wiring harness had a short and it cost less than $50.00 from a junk yard!!! 3 years I tried to tell him this...Some people just don't listen..
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Dec 20, 2011 08:18:51 #
OK, I sort of understand. But the first two responses so far are from people who DO want to learn. Believe me, there are those who don't!
If you're dissatisfied with your pics, then of course it makes sense to try to find out how to get them closer to your personal vision.
But when I'm doing a critique, I try to say, "What were you trying to achieve here?" Then, based on what they say, I'll try to suggest as many ways as I can think of, to help them get closer to what they want.
It's the people who reject any suggestions that freak me, especially if they then say, "I don't care what anyone else thinks". If they really didn't care, they'd not ask anyone else's opinion.
Cheers,
I really like Roger's reply here. Many times people with very helpfull views fail to get them across because they start their input with "You did this or this wrong, here's what you're supposed to do", as opposed to "What are you trying to accomplish, and how can I help?" I understand the ego portion of "I know how to fix this, just listen to me" but it's always easier to explain an oppinion to a receptive listener than an antagonistic one. And besides, as others have said, they may truly think their picture is not broken and were going for a specific effect.
If you're dissatisfied with your pics, then of course it makes sense to try to find out how to get them closer to your personal vision.
But when I'm doing a critique, I try to say, "What were you trying to achieve here?" Then, based on what they say, I'll try to suggest as many ways as I can think of, to help them get closer to what they want.
It's the people who reject any suggestions that freak me, especially if they then say, "I don't care what anyone else thinks". If they really didn't care, they'd not ask anyone else's opinion.
Cheers,
I really like Roger's reply here. Many times people with very helpfull views fail to get them across because they start their input with "You did this or this wrong, here's what you're supposed to do", as opposed to "What are you trying to accomplish, and how can I help?" I understand the ego portion of "I know how to fix this, just listen to me" but it's always easier to explain an oppinion to a receptive listener than an antagonistic one. And besides, as others have said, they may truly think their picture is not broken and were going for a specific effect.
Dec 20, 2011 19:46:10 #
Dec 20, 2011 20:47:13 #
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Dec 21, 2011 06:02:43 #
I started with a Nikon FM... A treasured gift from My Dad... Worked for an "in-house" Ad agency for 11 years... Stills, up to 4x5, 16 and 35mm motion films, video production, etc... My portfolio includes Better Homes and Gardens... Only thing I truly know is if I didn't "learn" anything about photography today, I spent the day in bed... "Semper Fi" In Country 71-73... jim
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Dec 23, 2011 04:27:35 #
Would like to see you post it, for one.
GEARHEAD6PACK wrote:
Well, everbody's entitled to my opinion, so here i... (show quote)
Dec 23, 2011 16:09:46 #
Old Timer wrote:
I agree that you should shoot for your self, but you can only progress with some cc if it is helpful. We all have are preference just as with anything else we need to consider. I personally do not like a cluttered foreground unless it adds the pic. I like to shoot a little bit underexposed except the subject. Bokeh is good example, I have had people comment that every thing is not in focus.I do not like over saturated colors, but some do. Ever one has to develop there on style
Yes, their own style; watch, learn, listen and be flexible. regards
Dec 23, 2011 16:32:27 #
xpane wrote:
Would like to see you post it, for one. quote=GEA... (show quote)
First, I've got to find the disc it's on (along with some others I'd like to post), and then find where the instructions are for posting. Also, I need to find out if there's something I should do to protect my 'intellectual property' (any suggestions would be appreciated). (it's too late to protect my intellect, it's long gone!)
Dec 24, 2011 22:16:36 #
GEARHEAD6PACK wrote:
quote=xpane Would like to see you post it, for on... (show quote)
"protect my 'intellectual property"... Never post a multi meg pic... Never alter the orig. pic... Then you have "proof"... Watermark them across the front...
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Dec 24, 2011 23:17:28 #
lol. Life is getting more complex everyday. Have a Merry Christmas, everyone.
GEARHEAD6PACK wrote:
quote=xpane Would like to see you post it, for on... (show quote)
Dec 24, 2011 23:31:49 #
I shoot only for myself and I do post for C&C, without the honest feedback I have received my pictures would still be OOF and my children would all have green skin tones. I don't think I have every used the excuse "I shoot only for myself" actually I don't think I have ever posted an excuse, I've asked for clarification on statements and always made sure I've thanked those that have taken the time to offer me their ideas on how to improve.
Dec 25, 2011 00:19:16 #
AvailableLight wrote:
quote=GEARHEAD6PACK quote=xpane Would like to se... (show quote)
Well, here's where my ignorance shines through; what's a 'multi-meg' picture, and how do I watermark them?
Dec 25, 2011 02:47:54 #
When you post here it has a check box next to it... SAVE ORIGINAL... If your pic is in size 1024 x 768 pixels, and you have that checked, thats what someone can download... I reduce the image size to something manageable and "screen friendly" of all photos I post... That way folks don't have to scroll to see the entire image... Watermarking is a tool in Photo Shop or other graphic image programs that lets you add a "ghost image" or text right across the pic. It stops someone from just copying the pic without somehow editing out your watermark...
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