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Anyone know if the New York Institue of Photograhy is worth the 999.
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May 16, 2013 08:04:38   #
saichiez Loc: Beautiful Central Oregon
 
TXYank wrote:
I took the NYIP full professional course about two years ago. I paid the total cost up front. That saved me about $200 or so off the payment plan and also gave me motivation to finish. The course is chock full of information and suggestions to try with your new hobby/profession. There are lots of materials to go through, read and digest. The course has been shifting focus (no pun intended) from film to digital, but still there are materials that are dated. I guess it's very expensive to produce those glossy booklets. (But again, I took it two years ago, so that might not be as much of a concern now.) Tests are a joke and poorly written. But the feedback from the professional photographers was encouraging and helpful.
I took the NYIP full professional course about two... (show quote)


I took the photography NYIP course in the seventies, and I spent about $200. Do the math and inflation would surely have increased the price in 30 years.

At that time, it was all photography... meaning exposure, composition, etc. and probably the best "jump start" I could have done.

However, I think it's broken down now into photography skills and then "digital", or how to use the computers we now call digital camera's. So, I would think the decision now would be about whether you want or need the photography skills or the digital instruction. They are different one from the other.

I was not concerned about accreditation, or resume pumping attributes of the program, and in that period of time, if building a resume was the end goal, one went to schools like Brookings Institute in California, or such.

Is it worth $1000? Well, I am sure inflation would put my original $200 near that amount over 30 years.

And, as others have said, you could find all the same information the "Cheapo" way for free on the internet. However, it's not the information you are paying for. With NYIP, it is years of a well developed, guided program of instruction.

Using the "life experience" method and challenging a college program to get a college degree is also a means of getting and "off campus" degree, but it's also after many years of fumbling around in a career or career's mode. And even then it's not free.

Personally, I thought the program I took from NYIP many years ago was well thought out and executed, and that's what I paid for. I'm pretty sure it's the same today, adding for inflation.

My biggest concern would be whether the price you quoted includes both of today's major elements. Photography skills, AND the use of digital to achieve those skills as an end result.

The money is all about the effectiveness of the program. NYIP has more experience under their belt on how to do that in a structured correspondence course, than any of the new found upstarts that have offered bits of information just in recent years on the internet.

The value is in the experience, the content, and the delivery method. I doubt any other source can do that as well as NYIP. And they actually were in the business many years before I took their courses in the seventies.

And please also consider that some of the responses you have received here have to do with some spending all their money on outrageously priced gear or hardware, and short-cutting the value of education.

Whether the NYIP is the best way to get the education is something you have to initially decide. Part of that decision is whether to spend all your money on gear, and then fumble around for months or years to learn how to use it properly. Such things as composure, lighting, metering, golden rule, rule of thirds, and all the other dynamics of photography that existed before digital are spread all over the internet. I would simply suggest that the value in NYIP or similar courses is the "pulling together" of all the "FREE" internet sourcing that you will have to spend much time digging out yourself.

I remember the exercises that NYIP sent you each week or month depending on your activity level as the spur that I needed to move through the program. It is self paced, as I recall, and whether you finish it is totally up to your own self motivation. NYIP did a good job of meeting their end of the deal. If you don't finish and don't get good information, it's on you, not on shortcomings of NYIP.

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May 16, 2013 08:09:20   #
edazz Loc: Florida via New York
 
Ambrose wrote:
I'm of the mind that there's nothing they will teach you that you can't find for free on the web.

Digital Photography School - http://digital-photography-school.com/
Picture Correct - Photo tips and techniques http://www.picturecorrect.com/
Improve Photographyhttp://improvephotography.com/
Photosig - Phot critique site http://www.photosig.com/go/main
DP Challenge - http://www.dpchallenge.com/
http://www.picturecorrect.com/
Adobe TV - For any adobe post-processinghttp://tv.adobe.com/
...and of course the Ugly Hedgehog resources section!

This is just the tip of the iceberg for what's available out there.
Save your money. Be diciplined and teach yourself!
I'm of the mind that there's nothing they will tea... (show quote)



I agree with you!

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May 16, 2013 08:19:53   #
edazz Loc: Florida via New York
 
terry44 wrote:
Anyone know if the New York Institue of Photograhy is worth the 999.00 I am thinking of taking a refresher course to catch up on digital photography, I have a graphic arts degree and would like to get up to date what do you think, and are there others out there who you may think better to learn from




I agree with Ambrose, if you are serious about being a photographer
Then you can cind everything you need to onow on line if youre disclipned
And organized. If youre not than you will pay to have it all laid out
For you by the school. Im self taught, but many years ago i did go to
NYIP for a pocessing course which earned me a certificate that got me
Nowhere in my career because the school is not recognized as an
Accredited school and only a business. My suggestion is this; save the
Money, use their course outline for the course and research the information
Yourself in the order they would have thought it to you. I can honestly
Say what little I learned there was not beneficial to my 30 year career
In photography.

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May 16, 2013 08:23:36   #
edazz Loc: Florida via New York
 
rpavich wrote:
I'm inclined to agree....

UNLESS

the school is a real brick-morter location then I'm not so sure.

The value to real classroom learning is the pressure that's put on to actually do it and learn something...very few people have the drive and discipline to do an online distance learning course or degree situation and stick with it...the drop out rate is way high.

For myself, I have no problem with teaching myself, though I'm sure that that masks what I COULD be learning if I attended a school.
I'm inclined to agree.... br br UNLESS br br th... (show quote)


I can attest to the fact that its a real brick and mortar location in NY
When i attened it.

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May 16, 2013 08:37:39   #
WesIam Loc: Phoenixville, Pa
 
I am just finishing the course,it has been great for me. I have some knowledge of photography before i took the course.It has helped me very much. You can do it at your own pace. I find myself reviewing the lessons when ever i have ?.My son is a professional photographer and have been able to give him some advice.It is well worth the money.They will offer discount even if you can't pay all at once,my advice do it. :thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 16, 2013 08:51:48   #
Richard Spencer Loc: Evansville, Indiana
 
I took their course back in the 1970's and it was not much. Nothing had been updated in years. I learned much more from other places. UHH is a great place to learn. The best way is to shoot and analyze and get critique from others and keep shooting.

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May 16, 2013 08:56:00   #
Hypno Loc: Miami
 
Have you tried your local community college? They usually offer adult ed courses in photography at a lower rate, You will have the opportunity to be with others and have an instructor on hand.

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May 16, 2013 08:56:35   #
sportyman140 Loc: Juliette, GA
 
terry44 wrote:
Anyone know if the New York Institue of Photograhy is worth the 999.00 I am thinking of taking a refresher course to catch up on digital photography, I have a graphic arts degree and would like to get up to date what do you think, and are there others out there who you may think better to learn from


I have a camera club here in GA that I started and I have a member that signed up for that course. She says she loves it but it is extreme and intense with studying. Not a free ride so to speak. What exactly do you want from you interest in photography is the big question?.? I would join/talk to a local camera club or members and find out what they have heard. I checked into the course you are talking about, Liked what I saw, I just cold not afford it.

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May 16, 2013 09:04:59   #
daggerd Loc: NE Ohio
 
You will learn a few things but not @ 999.00. Talk to them I got them down to 299.99. However you will learn more here @ the HOG for free. BTW they do issue a Certificate.

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May 16, 2013 09:34:17   #
Dlevon Loc: New Jersey
 
terry44 wrote:
Anyone know if the New York Institue of Photograhy is worth the 999.00 I am thinking of taking a refresher course to catch up on digital photography, I have a graphic arts degree and would like to get up to date what do you think, and are there others out there who you may think better to learn from


I think you'll learn as much if not more by listening to the advice of the many professionals and amateurs on UGHH. Save your money and buy a new lens!

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May 16, 2013 10:00:23   #
emmons267 Loc: Arizona, Valley of the Sun
 
terry44 wrote:
Anyone know if the New York Institue of Photograhy is worth the 999.00 I am thinking of taking a refresher course to catch up on digital photography, I have a graphic arts degree and would like to get up to date what do you think, and are there others out there who you may think better to learn from


Edazz wrote - Save the money, use their course outline and research the information yourself in the order they would have taught it.

I agree with him completely. As we all know, all of the information you could ever want, the help you'll need, the critiques you could get, and much more, are available through the Internet and many excellent books.

Remember, the theory and academics of color, composition, exposure, lighting, dof, exposure values, equivalent exposures, shutter speed/f stop/iso, dof, to name a few, haven't changed for decades, so they're not teaching anything new. Of course, it's up to you to learn all the features and details of your camera, and that will definitely be to your advantage. And don't forget the best lesson - trial and error.

If you are a person with a lot of drive and self-motivation then you'll probably do it yourself. If not, than you are probably one who needs a structured environment to motivate you.

Either way, good luck and enjoy the journey.

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May 16, 2013 10:15:59   #
jcox Loc: Northern Missouri
 
2 to 3 months

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May 16, 2013 10:21:04   #
jimberton Loc: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
 
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May 16, 2013 10:26:06   #
Jer Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
Ambrose wrote:
I'm of the mind that there's nothing they will teach you that you can't find for free on the web.

Digital Photography School - http://digital-photography-school.com/
Picture Correct - Photo tips and techniques http://www.picturecorrect.com/
Improve Photographyhttp://improvephotography.com/
Photosig - Phot critique site http://www.photosig.com/go/main
DP Challenge - http://www.dpchallenge.com/
http://www.picturecorrect.com/
Adobe TV - For any adobe post-processinghttp://tv.adobe.com/
...and of course the Ugly Hedgehog resources section!

This is just the tip of the iceberg for what's available out there.
Save your money. Be diciplined and teach yourself!
I'm of the mind that there's nothing they will tea... (show quote)


I agree. however, doing it yourself requires more discipline.

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May 16, 2013 10:46:30   #
Kirit
 
Hi:

I would recommend local community colleges where you can get one to one interaction with the instructor. I did NYIP course during the era of film photography. Being me, I would lag behind in submitting their hands on assignments. With community college environment you would be with a group of students and instructors, a better platform for discussions and learning from others.

I also agree with others. There are some very good tutorials on Youtube from experienced photographers. If you are a canon user, like I am, then Canon has online tutorials for DSLRs.

I personally would use $999 to buy a nice high end lens then spend it on NYIP course, specially when internet can provide all the tutorials as mentioned earlier by others.

Kirit

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