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May 2, 2013 20:53:57   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
"Because..." it could be the type of work they do does not require the bigger files the 800 is capable of. If Nikon had made an updated 700 using the sensor in the 600 (sans oil drops and video capabilities), I would be using one. The 600 is not as intuitive to me as the D300 and D700 I am used to. I never liked the interface of the 7000, but loved the results.


Reading some of the reviews on the D800E or even the D700 makes me want to jump from the Canon ship and swim to Nikon... Wish I were made of money. :-)

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May 2, 2013 22:32:29   #
perpoto
 
better late than never
mdorn wrote:
Reading some of the reviews on the D800E or even the D700 makes me want to jump from the Canon ship and swim to Nikon... Wish I were made of money. :-)

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May 2, 2013 22:48:32   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
mdorn wrote:
Reading some of the reviews on the D800E or even the D700 makes me want to jump from the Canon ship and swim to Nikon... Wish I were made of money. :-)


I am leaning over the railing of the S.S. Nikon with rope and a lifesaver to help you aboard .
--Bob

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May 2, 2013 22:57:40   #
Jblanke Loc: Metairie, LA
 
xxMeanKittyxx wrote:
I'm interested in getting one - but I don't know if it is because the D800E is the newest and best or because I want to explore full frame functionality. I'm a digital girl, so please don't tell me to go film :lol:

Any other camera recommendations you can make that I would be pleased with, say maybe the 200 or 600 and can you throw in a comparison to the D7100? I'm looking for your personal perspectives/opinions and experiences (I can check specs for myself :-).

Thanks.
Brenda
I'm interested in getting one - but I don't know i... (show quote)


MK, I got my first full frame at Christmas......a 5d MK II. I have been very pleased. It did take some getting used to, as my previous DSLR was a 1.6 crop. Kept the crop for use in wild life shooting. I know you are considering spending more than I did on newer technology.......but, I think you're gonna love it.

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May 3, 2013 00:40:08   #
Shutter Bugger
 
I havnt used A D800 but a D800 in a D700 body would have to be a good thing too if you dont mind the weight.

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May 3, 2013 07:35:06   #
Brenda IS Scottish Loc: GOLDEN Colorado
 
To my understanding the D7100 and the D800E both have the antialiasing filter removed correct? Which one would be best suited for wedding, portraits and landscapes?

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May 3, 2013 07:39:41   #
perpoto
 
if money is no problem go for 800 E
xxMeanKittyxx wrote:
To my understanding the D7100 and the D800E both have the antialiasing filter removed correct? Which one would be best suited for wedding, portraits and landscapes?

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May 3, 2013 08:14:08   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
xxMeanKittyxx wrote:
To my understanding the D7100 and the D800E both have the antialiasing filter removed correct? Which one would be best suited for wedding, portraits and landscapes?


I can 't imagine anyone wanting to see every pore in a portrait that these two cameras are capable of. Overkill, in my opinion.

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May 3, 2013 08:22:18   #
Brenda IS Scottish Loc: GOLDEN Colorado
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
I can 't imagine anyone wanting to see every pore in a portrait that these two cameras are capable of. Overkill, in my opinion.


The last wedding (and only wedding)I shot has group shots with 65 people in them, I thought the full frame would make those photos turn out better than my D90 did.

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May 3, 2013 08:28:53   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
xxMeanKittyxx wrote:
To my understanding the D7100 and the D800E both have the antialiasing filter removed correct? Which one would be best suited for wedding, portraits and landscapes?


I can 't imagine anyone wanting to see every pore in a portrait that these two cameras are capable of. Overkill, in my opinion. These cameras are more prone to moire patterns too. This would be seen in some fabric- I've had it show up in the D-7000 a few times before. Even though there is software to try to fix it, i've read it isn't very effective.

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May 3, 2013 14:11:21   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
The one gal I know uses the D700 for weddings, graduations, sceanery and everything you can imagine. I believe she also uses a D70 as a backup and second camera. She is one of the few photographers that's still around because she blows the photos taken by amateurs trying to shoot over their head out of the water. She has been published regularily and has some of her photos on display in the U of Mn Arboretum. The other guy mainly shoots weddings and graduations and I have a feeling he will be retiring soon. He judges many photo contests in the metro area and is a judge at the Mn state fair.

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May 3, 2013 14:40:50   #
plewislambert
 
The only full-frame files I have any knowledge of are 18mb compressed DNGs off an M9. My 2012 Lenovo Laptop with 8mb RAM and 2010 Dell desktop with 12mb RAM don't struggle with this size of file, which open readily in Pshop Elements 10.
When I used the Cornerfix program to correct frame-edge vignetting on M9 files caused by Voigtlander 15mm/21mm wide-angle lenses the program saved the corrected images at 36mb with no computer problems.
Maybe maximising on RAM has some bearing on this (certainly cheaper than buying the latest computers).
Philip

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May 4, 2013 07:41:29   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
xxMeanKittyxx wrote:
To my understanding the D7100 and the D800E both have the antialiasing filter removed correct? Which one would be best suited for wedding, portraits and landscapes?
I'm not sure that's true for the 7100.

The 800e certainly has no AA filter and that makes it less suitable for Wedding Photography IMO. The lack of an AA filter makes the 800e more prone to moire and there is plenty of opportunity for that in the fabric of the Mens suits. There's a good reason why Nikon offer the choice of AA or not to AA.

For Portraits and Landscapes I'd go for the 800e. Too much resolution is not an issue with a Portrait, you want as much eye detail as possible and pores and blemishes are easily dealt with. What you can't do is increase resolution in post.

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May 4, 2013 15:57:44   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
Peekayoh wrote:
I'm not sure that's true for the 7100.

The 800e certainly has no AA filter and that makes it less suitable for Wedding Photography IMO. The lack of an AA filter makes the 800e more prone to moire and there is plenty of opportunity for that in the fabric of the Mens suits. There's a good reason why Nikon offer the choice of AA or not to AA.

For Portraits and Landscapes I'd go for the 800e. Too much resolution is not an issue with a Portrait, you want as much eye detail as possible and pores and blemishes are easily dealt with. What you can't do is increase resolution in post.
I'm not sure that's true for the 7100. br br The... (show quote)
I believe the D7100 does have the AA filter and that begs to ask the question, why?? After receiving complaints about it on the D800 why would you go ahead and put it on your top of the line DX camera other than a selling point??

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May 4, 2013 18:13:09   #
JPL
 
Hi, lot of replies here, still I want to add mine. I have experiance with 3 full frame cameras, Nikon D600, D700 and D800E. I have used all of them to take pictures, I have printed out large prints on paper, up to 1x2 meters in size, processed from all of them in Lightroom 4, prepared a photobook in LR4 with pics from the D700 and D800E and also a photo exihib with pics from D700 and D800.

First of all. All 3 are excellent cameras. The D800E is the best of them in most ways, delivers detail and sharpness, even at high ISO, in 1x2 meters printouts.. Pics from D700 are no match to pics from D800E when printing this size pics. I think there is no full frame camera capable of better results than the D800E. But quality is not painless. Processing and printing images from this camera is a slow process due to large files. I was working last summer with Lightroom 4 on a new, state of the art, Lenovo laptop with SSD and 8GB memory. This gear was barely getting the job done.
In this process the whole gear, cameras and laptop and the big Canon printer was own by the guy I was working for. When I started this project I had made up my mind to buy me a D800 but after working with the files I knew I would have to invest in a laptop as expensive as the camera so I changed my mind and bought a D600 instead. That has proven to be a good choice for me. It delivers excellent pics and my Toshiba laptop with 4Gb and no SSD is much faster processing than the Lenovo was with the D800 files. I have not yet printed anything larger than A4 from this camera, but some crops from bigger pics and that has proved to me that big prints can be done with excellent quality from this camera.

One more thing to mention about the D800E is that the patterns the anti aliasing filter is used to prevent in other cameras very rarely, but still in one photoshoot, were visible. So if you choose that camera you must accept that once in awhile a pic will be destroyed because you use a camera without aa filter, but in return for choosing that camera you will get best possible pic quality most of the time.

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