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Apr 9, 2013 06:13:58   #
GHK Loc: The Vale of Eden
 
winterrose wrote:
Please include the applicable final image for our reference.


But this would only tell half the story.
What is left out is often just as important as what is included.
I don't know if I will get round to a full reply before the thread dies; it would be a long job.
GHK

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Apr 9, 2013 08:53:58   #
EstherP
 
winterrose wrote:
Don't "Huh?" me Mr. Nikonian72! Answer the question or you will forever be labeled as a finger-painter or even worse, as a Nikon photographer!


What question? I didn't see a question-mark....

You would like us to sum up at least ten different things taken into account when using manual mode.
I bet that many people behind a camera will see some of the things you sum up, like look, feel, story, framing, foreground, background and know they have a good picture, but will not be able to put into words why it will be a good picture. Along the same lines, they'll know when it's not worth pushing the shutter button when looking through the viewfinder, but cannot put into words why not.
Just my two-bits worth.
EstherP

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Apr 9, 2013 09:26:52   #
rebride
 
winterrose wrote:
Dear SharpShooter,
1. I too now shoot with a "puny" DSLR.
2. I suppose every shot I take is a potential Zen experience.
3. If I'm shooting in the dark I grab the D3.

And some thought I know nothing of shooting in Manual mode. Cheers, Rob.


I read the manual.
I manually set shutter speed and aperture, usually, sometimes.
Daido Moriyama is my new mentor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foWAs3V_lkg (Kuzano @ UHH turned me on to him)

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Apr 9, 2013 09:57:49   #
warrior Loc: Paso Robles CA
 
winterrose wrote:
For those who always shoot in manual.
Referring to a recent photograph, please post your exact discipline from your decision to capture the scene or subject through to ready to display. Include a description of your intended "look" or "feel" for the finished image, the "story" you wished to covey to the viewer, how you decided on which lens to use, what aspects of the subject you took into account when framing, how you metered the scene and subject including foreground and background features, how you ensured that highlights and shadows remained contained within the camera's available dynamic range, which camera settings/trims you applied and finally your choice of aperture, shutter speed and ISO you settled upon including your reasons for same. Please include the applicable final image for our reference.
For those who always shoot in manual. br Referrin... (show quote)


Can we please have an example?

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Apr 9, 2013 10:03:21   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
I just want to know what using manuals has to do with not cropping or not using any post editing software?

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Apr 9, 2013 10:04:52   #
lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow
 
winterrose wrote:
For those who always shoot in manual.
Referring to a recent photograph, please post your exact discipline from your decision to capture the scene or subject through to ready to display. Include a description of your intended "look" or "feel" for the finished image, the "story" you wished to covey to the viewer, how you decided on which lens to use, what aspects of the subject you took into account when framing, how you metered the scene and subject including foreground and background features, how you ensured that highlights and shadows remained contained within the camera's available dynamic range, which camera settings/trims you applied and finally your choice of aperture, shutter speed and ISO you settled upon including your reasons for same. Please include the applicable final image for our reference.
For those who always shoot in manual. br Referrin... (show quote)



Sounds like the subject of a great novel. Maybe someone will make a picture out of it.

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Apr 9, 2013 10:43:54   #
GHK Loc: The Vale of Eden
 
winterrose wrote:
For those who always shoot in manual.
Referring to a recent photograph, please post your exact discipline from your decision to capture the scene


Thinking about my half-promise to send a proper response, I realised that it is impossible to do what you ask for 'a recent photo'. I did, in fact, make some images just two days ago, but, after deciding to try to make an image, there were several things which I did before making the exposure. There is no longer any record of these, although they were an important part of the process which gave me something to take home to look at further. The only way that I could offer a proper response would be for me to go out on another shot and make exposures of all the things I considered and rejected.
Watch this space, but don't expect miracles.
GHK

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Apr 9, 2013 11:15:02   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
winterrose wrote:
For those who always shoot in manual.
Referring to a recent photograph, please post your exact discipline from your decision to capture the scene or subject through to ready to display. Include a description of your intended "look" or "feel" for the finished image, the "story" you wished to covey to the viewer, how you decided on which lens to use, what aspects of the subject you took into account when framing, how you metered the scene and subject including foreground and background features, how you ensured that highlights and shadows remained contained within the camera's available dynamic range, which camera settings/trims you applied and finally your choice of aperture, shutter speed and ISO you settled upon including your reasons for same. Please include the applicable final image for our reference.
For those who always shoot in manual. br Referrin... (show quote)


None of this applies strictly or only to shooting in manual so your point is...........what exactly?

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Apr 9, 2013 11:44:43   #
GrahamS Loc: Hertfordshire, U.K
 
All that you refer to will appear in the 4th part of my series of beginners guides on PASM, but it will be a while before I am able to post the rermaining two, P and M. You will have to be patient, sorry.

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Apr 9, 2013 16:20:32   #
DOOK Loc: Maclean, Australia
 
If I had to consider all of those aspects to take a photo, I'd never get around to actually taking one.

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Apr 9, 2013 20:25:38   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
Winterrose do you have trouble sleeping? You must have stayed up all night thinking this up. - Dave

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Apr 9, 2013 20:45:58   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
JR1 wrote:
Years of photography comes as natural as changing gear in a car, learning from one scene to another
I like this analogy. I never before saw the parallel between automobile transmissions and manual/automatic camera settings. Anybody can drive an automatic transmission, but to effortlessly use 5-on-the-floor takes a bit of gear grinding to get there, and second-guessing as to downshift timing, etc. Learning manual camera settings is no different.

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Apr 9, 2013 20:50:54   #
steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
 
????????, is this thread for real. http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm80/steve40/471182.gif

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Apr 9, 2013 21:01:10   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
steve40 wrote:
Is this thread for real?
Just play along. It is part of his therapy.

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Apr 9, 2013 21:11:53   #
steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
 
Well - I guess there some advantages, to being older than dirt. It was several years after I started taking pictures, before there was anything automatic. If you did not use manual, you didn't take any pictures.

So I am just in reverse, I actually enjoy leaving most of the work to the camera, unless I am doing something critical. :)

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