It is amazing how well you are able to present history in accordance with Bushistic dogma. Everyone did not want the Bush wars. As a matter of fact, they were protested more before their onset than any other previous wars.

Bush did not prove his case about who had committed the 9-11 attacks. A few facts you need to consider about them:

1. Structural steel, such as that used in the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center melts at 2750 degrees F.

2. Hydrocarbon fires cannot create.heat greater than 1700 degrees F, some 1000 degrees cooler than what it would have taken to melt the steel frame in the towers.

3. The buildings fell as if they had been subjected to a planned implosion.

4. Nothing falls like a planned implosion, but a planned implosion.

5. Pyrite, unlike a burning hydrocarbon, is hot enough, and concussive enough to melt structural steel.

6. Anyone climbing into the frame of the building to set explosives would be suspected on site, unless it was the official security provider of the buildings.

7. Head of security for the 9-11 complex before the implosion was Marvin Bush, the presidents younger brother. He resigned with enough gap between 9-11 and his tenure to deflect most suspicion.

8. The South Tower imploded before the North Tower, even though the North Tower had been burning for about an hour longer, and most of the fuel in the plane that hit the South Tower burned outside the building in a huge fireball.

9. The major shareholders of the World Trade Center Complex met in Building #7 the day before the crime and sold 100% of their shares.

10. Building #7 tumbled down in an implosion 8 hours after the Twin Towers, even though it sported only a faint trail of smoke caused by debris that had fallen into it. Thus the evidence of the meeting before was destroyed.

11. Some five miles away from the scene of the crime there was a meeting of the criminal invest organization called the Carlisle Group. It included Bush's father, Caspar Weinberger, Bush I's Secretary of Defense, some Columbian drug lords, and 24 Bin Ladens.

12. On September 12, the Bin Ladens were rounded up on orders of George W. Bush and flown out of the country before the FBI and the CIA could ask them any questions.

13. In the history of steel-framed skyscrapers, not a single one ever imploded because of fire, even though several had hotter flames than the Twin Towers.

14. In 1977, when Bush was about to bankrupt Arbusto Energy, the first corporation he managed into failure, he was bailed out with a huge infusion of cash from Salem BinLaden, Osama's favorite uncle.

15. When Bush was informed of the 9-11 crimes he was in a Florida school house reading the most complex book he had ever undertaken MY PET GOAT. He did not look astonished. Nor did he decide to move out of the location. If no one knew who had committed the crimes, it would be reasonable to assume the nation was under attack, and that the major leaders were in danger. His location was known world wide. The Secret Service is trained to protect the president, even if the president does not agree with their tactics. For example, if shots are fired, they remove the president from danger, even if the president treats it casually, or resists being removed from the scene. The Secret Service did nothing, as Bush continued to read to elementary students for some 22 minutes after being informed of the problem.

"Stop disrespecting the memory of those 2,996 people." We may presume you mean the ones killed in the 9-11 attacks. This statement of yours is unadulterated propaganda. It attempts to shame people into conforming to your interpretation by invoking the sacrosanct memory of the dead. You expect all discussion to end, as did Bush, by claiming or implying that anyone who contested the official conspiracy theory was on the side of the terrorists.

Your version of respecting the 2,996 who died is to kill many more in revenge, without much concern that a vast majority of the victims of our "revenge" had nothing to do with 9-11. Perhaps you would consider maturing in your thinking. Instead of regurgitating the propaganda reasons for our wars, I suggest you google the words "pipeline" and "Afghanistan" together and use the results to educate yourself in realpolitik, 21st century style.

Ted45 writes
There were a lot of heavy weapons destroyed on land also instead of being moved out. It was nowhere near as bad as what is being proposed in Afghanistan but just another example of a war being run by politicians instead of the military.
Ted please try to be objective: following the Tet offensive in Nam the US was trying desperately to just get the troops out with their shorts still on. There was no conceivable way to "move out the hardware".
You are entitled to any political view you want to espouse but let's not try to rewrite history. In doing so you put yourself in the same class as the politicians you berate.

you got one thing correct he did land on a destroyer. but you want me to google the pilots name that flew it or do you want me to. but think i'll let you. lol what a joke.

Liberated??? Do you pay any attention at all?

In 5000 years of almost constant conflict, no outsider has had ANY long term effect on the Middle East.

We killed or maimed a million Iraqis, spent trillions--wasted trillions, lost almost 5000 GIs, more maimed to no good effect. Well, we did free up Iran to do some no good.

Pretty good, huh?

Next time a president brags about being a C student, we should pay more attention. Look as the VP he chose to run the country!

Thank you Republicans!

You cannot land anything on a destroyer. A destroyer is a relatively small warship bristling with guns. He landed on The Abraham Lincoln which is a nuclear powered aircraft carrier. The reports never said he piloted the plane. They said he was in the co-pilots seat.

I tell people about how I landed on an LPH but that in no way indicates I was the pilot.


At least make a small effort to verify what you are arguing about

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85711,00.html

http://articles.cnn.com/2003-05-01/politics/bush.carrier.landing_1_bush-speech-observation-deck-flight-deck?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

thats what my LOL was about landin a jet on a destroyer. i always thought you landed on a carrier. i was playin his WORD game then i was gonna dump on him.

Bush was unfortunately no conservative, but he did have a higher grade point average than the current secretary of state had, and at least he HAS a grade point average. The current treasonous pathological liar occupying our White house won't share anything about his pathetic past with us.
Nice one on the trillions. Trillions aren't spent on wars...several billion maybe, learn that there is a huge difference. Only B.O. can blow trillions with nothing to show for it. Running up more debt than nearly all of the other presidents combined. He also doesn't have any intention of cutting anything government run in the future either...While he prints the American dollar out of value at a ridiculous rate never imagined before.
When the dollar is dumped by the World soon for it's lack of credibility, as the Worlds reserve currency...It will take a wheelbarrow full of dollars to get a bottle of water.
Looking forward to that?