ted45 wrote:
Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
This is what the price of "WAR' really boils down to. It was easy for Bush to take us to war so Cheny's group (Haliburton) could capitalize on huge profits and they still are. They no doubt will reap huge rewards when we pull out because Haliburton will remaind there to clean up. This is not just a war it is corporate greed. At the end of World War ll our government pushed off of ships huge amounts of material into the seas to lighten their loads on their way back to the U.S. this is not new. So do you see how costly "WAR' can be???? We so dearly now will have to take care of all of our brave men and women with healthcare costs too. They so do deserve all the healtcare services we can provide. Again we need to think twice before we get into another conflict in the future. It just amazes me to hear Sen. McCain and Sen. Grahm advocate we should get more involved in Syria. This country can't sustain another "WAR" on foriegn soils. We need to prepare for one on our soils, one that we will need to build up our country.
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Bush, Bush Bush: a tired and worn song. We attacked Afghanistan after 911 because the twin towers fell and 2,996 innocent people died on American soil. The people of the United States of America wanted revenge. THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WANTED REVENGE. Congress, both parties, voted 100% to attack. Bush had no choice. You were one of those people. It is remarkable how you libs can revise your memories to replay whatever supports your current cockeyed view of the world.
We the people are all responsible for Afghanistan. All of us share the blame, not just one man. Find another tune to whistle. Stop disrespecting the memory of those 2,996 people.
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It is amazing how well you are able to present history in accordance with Bushistic dogma. Everyone did not want the Bush wars. As a matter of fact, they were protested more before their onset than any other previous wars.
Bush did not prove his case about who had committed the 9-11 attacks. A few facts you need to consider about them:
1. Structural steel, such as that used in the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center melts at 2750 degrees F.
2. Hydrocarbon fires cannot create.heat greater than 1700 degrees F, some 1000 degrees cooler than what it would have taken to melt the steel frame in the towers.
3. The buildings fell as if they had been subjected to a planned implosion.
4. Nothing falls like a planned implosion, but a planned implosion.
5. Pyrite, unlike a burning hydrocarbon, is hot enough, and concussive enough to melt structural steel.
6. Anyone climbing into the frame of the building to set explosives would be suspected on site, unless it was the official security provider of the buildings.
7. Head of security for the 9-11 complex before the implosion was Marvin Bush, the presidents younger brother. He resigned with enough gap between 9-11 and his tenure to deflect most suspicion.
8. The South Tower imploded before the North Tower, even though the North Tower had been burning for about an hour longer, and most of the fuel in the plane that hit the South Tower burned outside the building in a huge fireball.
9. The major shareholders of the World Trade Center Complex met in Building #7 the day before the crime and sold 100% of their shares.
10. Building #7 tumbled down in an implosion 8 hours after the Twin Towers, even though it sported only a faint trail of smoke caused by debris that had fallen into it. Thus the evidence of the meeting before was destroyed.
11. Some five miles away from the scene of the crime there was a meeting of the criminal invest organization called the Carlisle Group. It included Bush's father, Caspar Weinberger, Bush I's Secretary of Defense, some Columbian drug lords, and 24 Bin Ladens.
12. On September 12, the Bin Ladens were rounded up on orders of George W. Bush and flown out of the country before the FBI and the CIA could ask them any questions.
13. In the history of steel-framed skyscrapers, not a single one ever imploded because of fire, even though several had hotter flames than the Twin Towers.
14. In 1977, when Bush was about to bankrupt Arbusto Energy, the first corporation he managed into failure, he was bailed out with a huge infusion of cash from Salem BinLaden, Osama's favorite uncle.
15. When Bush was informed of the 9-11 crimes he was in a Florida school house reading the most complex book he had ever undertaken MY PET GOAT. He did not look astonished. Nor did he decide to move out of the location. If no one knew who had committed the crimes, it would be reasonable to assume the nation was under attack, and that the major leaders were in danger. His location was known world wide. The Secret Service is trained to protect the president, even if the president does not agree with their tactics. For example, if shots are fired, they remove the president from danger, even if the president treats it casually, or resists being removed from the scene. The Secret Service did nothing, as Bush continued to read to elementary students for some 22 minutes after being informed of the problem.
"Stop disrespecting the memory of those 2,996 people." We may presume you mean the ones killed in the 9-11 attacks. This statement of yours is unadulterated propaganda. It attempts to shame people into conforming to your interpretation by invoking the sacrosanct memory of the dead. You expect all discussion to end, as did Bush, by claiming or implying that anyone who contested the official conspiracy theory was on the side of the terrorists.
Your version of respecting the 2,996 who died is to kill many more in revenge, without much concern that a vast majority of the victims of our "revenge" had nothing to do with 9-11. Perhaps you would consider maturing in your thinking. Instead of regurgitating the propaganda reasons for our wars, I suggest you google the words "pipeline" and "Afghanistan" together and use the results to educate yourself in realpolitik, 21st century style.