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Feb 25, 2013 05:40:40   #
patvet Loc: Scotland
 
Bob's your Uncle is usually - 'Thats it' 'All done' -'See - there you are' ! or Done successfully !

If you get stuck on any Scottish phrases - message me !

Pat

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Feb 25, 2013 06:01:04   #
Randolph Loc: Medway, UK
 
Bacon Sandwich: What you would expect - cooked bacon on bread of a bread roll of some sort.

Also known as a bacon sarnie

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Feb 25, 2013 06:45:33   #
viscountdriver Loc: East Kent UK
 
The bacon sandwich is often referred to as a bacon buttie.
Bacon can come as smoked or unsmoked.In the supermarket the other day I saw turkey bacon. I think they are on a hiding to nothing there. (Another Brit term)
Language evolves. I notice a lot of Yiddish words coming into the language with people using them with no idea where they come from.
It is amazing how terms spread.Take Okay. Universal right round the world. Sometimes tney fade. Anyone use the word 'scram' now?

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Feb 25, 2013 06:55:28   #
johnbelt
 
Hi Ted45.

I am an avid Stephen Leather fan and could help you with most of the slang if you would like to get in touch. JB

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Feb 25, 2013 07:09:19   #
Bkh42 Loc: N.I. UK
 
viscountdriver wrote:
The bacon sandwich is often referred to as a bacon buttie.
Bacon can come as smoked or unsmoked.In the supermarket the other day I saw turkey bacon. I think they are on a hiding to nothing there. (Another Brit term)
Language evolves. I notice a lot of Yiddish words coming into the language with people using them with no idea where they come from.
It is amazing how terms spread.Take Okay. Universal right round the world. Sometimes tney fade. Anyone use the word 'scram' now?


I would use "scram" now and again

I enjoy this thread as it takes me back a year or three :-D

Brenda

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Feb 25, 2013 07:22:18   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
viscountdriver wrote:
The bacon sandwich is often referred to as a bacon buttie.
Bacon can come as smoked or unsmoked.In the supermarket the other day I saw turkey bacon. I think they are on a hiding to nothing there. (Another Brit term)
Language evolves. I notice a lot of Yiddish words coming into the language with people using them with no idea where they come from.
It is amazing how terms spread.Take Okay. Universal right round the world. Sometimes tney fade. Anyone use the word 'scram' now?


"I think they are on a hiding to nothing there. " I haven't seen this term before. What does it mean?

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Feb 25, 2013 07:22:39   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
johnbelt wrote:
Hi Ted45.

I am an avid Stephen Leather fan and could help you with most of the slang if you would like to get in touch. JB


Thanks I will do that.

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Feb 25, 2013 07:37:24   #
Bkh42 Loc: N.I. UK
 
ted45 wrote:
viscountdriver wrote:
The bacon sandwich is often referred to as a bacon buttie.
Bacon can come as smoked or unsmoked.In the supermarket the other day I saw turkey bacon. I think they are on a hiding to nothing there. (Another Brit term)
Language evolves. I notice a lot of Yiddish words coming into the language with people using them with no idea where they come from.
It is amazing how terms spread.Take Okay. Universal right round the world. Sometimes tney fade. Anyone use the word 'scram' now?


"I think they are on a hiding to nothing there. " I haven't seen this term before. What does it mean?
quote=viscountdriver The bacon sandwich is often ... (show quote)


It means the situation is hopeless or going nowhere

Brenda

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Feb 25, 2013 07:38:15   #
Julianmpb Loc: DurhamUK
 
Try to get a copy of The Oxford Dictionary of slang and unconventional English it is available in British reference libraries and may be available on line. I will try to find an URL for you later.

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Feb 25, 2013 07:42:02   #
photosarah Loc: East Sussex, UK
 
ted45 wrote:
The few Brits I have encountered over the years have always been polite and more than willing to offer help or good conversation. I did not want to make this a public discussion but I have been unable to get a response from sending private messages.

Here is my problem: One of my favorite authors is Stephen Leather. He is from London and a former detective. He is also, in my humble opinion, a great writer. I have asked several folks if they would help me understand some of the uniquely British phrases he uses in his books.

For instance: What is a punter? What exactly is a bacon sandwich? What does the phrase "Robert's your cousins brother" mean? (I'm not sure I got the last one correct.)

I think I have some of them figured out but it would be nice to find one of you folks willing to give me exact explanations. Anyone willing to help?
The few Brits I have encountered over the years ha... (show quote)


Nobody seems to have mentioned the word "sarnie". I'm surprised that the item referred to wasn't called a "bacon sarnie". Sarnie, meaning sandwich, seems to have become the slang word of the moment, as in "how about a bacon sarnie for lunch?" Any sort of bacon will do, it isn't special.

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Feb 25, 2013 07:42:37   #
Dadyassa Loc: Spain
 
Maybe someone in the US can explain to me (a cockney) how you can have beef or turkey bacon ?
Bacon is a cut from a pig. :-)

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Feb 25, 2013 07:45:08   #
krispix Loc: London - UK
 
ted45 wrote:
Thank you all. I apologize for the late response there was a family issue in the real world that I had to deal with.

JR's response was not incomprehensible to me. I have read most of Stephen Leathers books and I've gotten fairly used to the slang.


My problem with the bacon sandwich is that in the USA we have a dozen different types of bacon. I cannot go into a restaurant and find any of them featured in a sandwich that consists of only bacon and bread. We have regular bacon, thick bacon, Canadian bacon, turkey bacon, vegetable bacon, pork bacon, beef bacon, etc. You get the point. One of his characters, Spider Shephard, seems to eat nothing but bacon sandwiches. I thought there must be something more to it than face value.

In the books he refers to a punter as the customer of a prostitute, a gambler or in the scenario I read last night: the scene was between a TV actress and her director. The punter seemed to be anyone not in the TV business.

I appreciate all of your replies. Would it be Ok if I contact one of you through PM when I find the other terms I am not familiar with? The before mentioned family issue has me a bit out of sorts at the moment and I can’t remember the other terms I was puzzled over.
Thank you all. I apologize for the late response ... (show quote)


I think you've pretty well got the answers you were after. But, if you need some future clarification then PM me by all means. I am a Londoner, born & bred, so I should be able to help out.

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Feb 25, 2013 07:45:32   #
Julianmpb Loc: DurhamUK
 
http://www.downloadweb.org/join.php?q=The%20Oxford%20Dictionary%20of%20Slang

Think this will help you

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Feb 25, 2013 07:45:49   #
krispix Loc: London - UK
 
Dadyassa wrote:
Maybe someone in the US can explain to me (a cockney) how you can have beef or turkey bacon ?
Bacon is a cut from a pig. :-)


Or worse - Vegetable bacon!!!!!

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Feb 25, 2013 07:46:02   #
Bkh42 Loc: N.I. UK
 
photosarah wrote:
ted45 wrote:
The few Brits I have encountered over the years have always been polite and more than willing to offer help or good conversation. I did not want to make this a public discussion but I have been unable to get a response from sending private messages.

Here is my problem: One of my favorite authors is Stephen Leather. He is from London and a former detective. He is also, in my humble opinion, a great writer. I have asked several folks if they would help me understand some of the uniquely British phrases he uses in his books.

For instance: What is a punter? What exactly is a bacon sandwich? What does the phrase "Robert's your cousins brother" mean? (I'm not sure I got the last one correct.)

I think I have some of them figured out but it would be nice to find one of you folks willing to give me exact explanations. Anyone willing to help?
The few Brits I have encountered over the years ha... (show quote)


Nobody seems to have mentioned the word "sarnie". I'm surprised that the item referred to wasn't called a "bacon sarnie". Sarnie, meaning sandwich, seems to have become the slang word of the moment, as in "how about a bacon sarnie for lunch?" Any sort of bacon will do, it isn't special.
quote=ted45 The few Brits I have encountered over... (show quote)




Randolph mentioned Sarnie just a couple of posts before this

Brenda

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