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Don't Clown Around With Carnival Cruise Line
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Feb 20, 2013 18:36:58   #
mslubner Loc: Redskin Ridge, Texas
 
To have avoided the whole thing, get an engine room crew who pays attention. It's their job to watch the gauges and notice any drop in pressure BEFORE the leak breaks out and ignites. This was human error. Someone was not doing their job.

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Feb 20, 2013 21:47:44   #
Birdog9999 Loc: New Jersey
 
Been on several cruises and became good friends with our waiters to the point that Ali came to visit us several times(he is Turkish). They are happy to work for the cruise lines and sign up to go back. To almost all of them the pay is great because it is much more than they can make in their home countries.It's one of the best vacations you can take. Will be leaving for Alaska cruise in May.

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Feb 21, 2013 00:08:00   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
Hey Hoggers, time to quit squabbling about gun control and politics. Lets "jump ship" for a moment and take a look at the near disaster aboard the Carnival Triumph cruise ship. .../The downside to this modern design is that if the engines go down, so does all the ship's power. No lights, no plumbing, and no refrigeration. What was a major inconvenience with the Carnival Triumph only 150 miles from shore would have been a life threatening catastrophe with an ocean liner in the middle of the Atlantic. Obvious solution; require installation of emergency generators away from the engine room and capable of keeping refrigeration, plumbing, communications, and emergency lighting up and running./ ....
Hey Hoggers, time to quit squabbling about gun con... (show quote)


I seems to me that they could build ships with two engine rooms. Each one operating independently. Then is on room has a problem, the second engine room is unaffected and would be able to supply engine power and still power to the ships equipment. It would probably not add much to the total cost of the ship just the cost of an additional bulkhead to separate the two engine rooms and a a duplication of power buses.

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Feb 22, 2013 12:20:37   #
onespots Loc: Gilbert Arizona
 
Heart
Totally agree with you.
Seems when Americans travel they have even higher expections of service, especially from the cruise lines. Because we are soft, weak, & pampered, we love to blame someone if things do not go our way.If you believe the media, the officiers & crew dissappeared & passengers were left to fend for themselves. Instead of taking a pro-active approach to these problems, it appears many became passengers became selfshish & territorial. Even hoarding became an issue. Yes conditions were most difficult & it spoiled evryone's holiday. So in our usual way we look for major compensation with an attorney & sue the cruise line. It seems to me the entitlement mentality once again prevails.

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Feb 23, 2013 06:50:52   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
onespots wrote:
Heart
Totally agree with you.
Seems when Americans travel they have even higher expections of service, especially from the cruise lines. Because we are soft, weak, & pampered, we love to blame someone if things do not go our way.If you believe the media, the officiers & crew dissappeared & passengers were left to fend for themselves. Instead of taking a pro-active approach to these problems, it appears many became passengers became selfshish & territorial. Even hoarding became an issue. Yes conditions were most difficult & it spoiled evryone's holiday. So in our usual way we look for major compensation with an attorney & sue the cruise line. It seems to me the entitlement mentality once again prevails.
Heart br Totally agree with you. br Seems when Am... (show quote)


And that's one of the major problems with the US. Too many lawyers trying to get rich quick and a congress that makes it possible. Too bad we can't export them.

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Mar 7, 2014 23:03:25   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
onespots wrote:
Heart
Totally agree with you.
Seems when Americans travel they have even higher expections of service, especially from the cruise lines. Because we are soft, weak, & pampered, we love to blame someone if things do not go our way.If you believe the media, the officiers & crew dissappeared & passengers were left to fend for themselves. Instead of taking a pro-active approach to these problems, it appears many became passengers became selfshish & territorial. Even hoarding became an issue. Yes conditions were most difficult & it spoiled evryone's holiday. So in our usual way we look for major compensation with an attorney & sue the cruise line. It seems to me the entitlement mentality once again prevails.
Heart br Totally agree with you. br Seems when Am... (show quote)

OR, the cruse lines build ships too big, without separated redundant backup systems and accidents do take place. No responsible photographer would do a wedding without a back up camera and flash, yet a ship with thousands of passengers has no provision for back up power or refrigeration? Shame on the Cruse line owners.

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Mar 8, 2014 03:11:09   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I read a very interesting article about how the Navy avoids this very problem. However, a cruise ship and a naval vessel are two totally different animals.

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Mar 8, 2014 05:34:28   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
amyinsparta wrote:
I will add that in a lot of cases, the management take and keep their tips. Nothing so good as having slave labor, eh?


Never give the tips to a management tip pool.
Stuff your tip in an envelope and give it to the houseboy/girl at the end of the trip.
At the restaurant leave something under a dish at the end of a meal.
Sneak a tip to the bartender before you retire.

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