To have avoided the whole thing, get an engine room crew who pays attention. It's their job to watch the gauges and notice any drop in pressure BEFORE the leak breaks out and ignites. This was human error. Someone was not doing their job.
Been on several cruises and became good friends with our waiters to the point that Ali came to visit us several times(he is Turkish). They are happy to work for the cruise lines and sign up to go back. To almost all of them the pay is great because it is much more than they can make in their home countries.It's one of the best vacations you can take. Will be leaving for Alaska cruise in May.
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
Hey Hoggers, time to quit squabbling about gun control and politics. Lets "jump ship" for a moment and take a look at the near disaster aboard the Carnival Triumph cruise ship. .../The downside to this modern design is that if the engines go down, so does all the ship's power. No lights, no plumbing, and no refrigeration. What was a major inconvenience with the Carnival Triumph only 150 miles from shore would have been a life threatening catastrophe with an ocean liner in the middle of the Atlantic. Obvious solution; require installation of emergency generators away from the engine room and capable of keeping refrigeration, plumbing, communications, and emergency lighting up and running./ ....
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I seems to me that they could build ships with two engine rooms. Each one operating independently. Then is on room has a problem, the second engine room is unaffected and would be able to supply engine power and still power to the ships equipment. It would probably not add much to the total cost of the ship just the cost of an additional bulkhead to separate the two engine rooms and a a duplication of power buses.
Heart
Totally agree with you.
Seems when Americans travel they have even higher expections of service, especially from the cruise lines. Because we are soft, weak, & pampered, we love to blame someone if things do not go our way.If you believe the media, the officiers & crew dissappeared & passengers were left to fend for themselves. Instead of taking a pro-active approach to these problems, it appears many became passengers became selfshish & territorial. Even hoarding became an issue. Yes conditions were most difficult & it spoiled evryone's holiday. So in our usual way we look for major compensation with an attorney & sue the cruise line. It seems to me the entitlement mentality once again prevails.
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Heart
Totally agree with you.
Seems when Americans travel they have even higher expections of service, especially from the cruise lines. Because we are soft, weak, & pampered, we love to blame someone if things do not go our way.If you believe the media, the officiers & crew dissappeared & passengers were left to fend for themselves. Instead of taking a pro-active approach to these problems, it appears many became passengers became selfshish & territorial. Even hoarding became an issue. Yes conditions were most difficult & it spoiled evryone's holiday. So in our usual way we look for major compensation with an attorney & sue the cruise line. It seems to me the entitlement mentality once again prevails.
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And that's one of the major problems with the US. Too many lawyers trying to get rich quick and a congress that makes it possible. Too bad we can't export them.
onespots wrote:
Heart
Totally agree with you.
Seems when Americans travel they have even higher expections of service, especially from the cruise lines. Because we are soft, weak, & pampered, we love to blame someone if things do not go our way.If you believe the media, the officiers & crew dissappeared & passengers were left to fend for themselves. Instead of taking a pro-active approach to these problems, it appears many became passengers became selfshish & territorial. Even hoarding became an issue. Yes conditions were most difficult & it spoiled evryone's holiday. So in our usual way we look for major compensation with an attorney & sue the cruise line. It seems to me the entitlement mentality once again prevails.
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OR, the cruse lines build ships too big, without separated redundant backup systems and accidents do take place. No responsible photographer would do a wedding without a back up camera and flash, yet a ship with thousands of passengers has no provision for back up power or refrigeration? Shame on the Cruse line owners.
I read a very interesting article about how the Navy avoids this very problem. However, a cruise ship and a naval vessel are two totally different animals.
amyinsparta wrote:
I will add that in a lot of cases, the management take and keep their tips. Nothing so good as having slave labor, eh?
Never give the tips to a management tip pool.
Stuff your tip in an envelope and give it to the houseboy/girl at the end of the trip.
At the restaurant leave something under a dish at the end of a meal.
Sneak a tip to the bartender before you retire.
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