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Feb 20, 2013 08:52:04   #
OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee
 
Thanks MtnMan
MtnMan wrote:
Eugene wrote:
Thanks swampgator...I have seen some of your post.You do a wonderful job. I'm just wondering if maybe I need to ease into it by letting the camera do some of the work.


I agree with you. To me shooting manual with a DSLR is like hooking a horse up to the front of your Lexus. Better to learn how to use the machine you spent all that money on.

For BIF I use shutter priority at 1/1000, spot autofocus, and spot metering. I set ISO to auto with the default at 100 and an upper limit of 1600. I use continuous shooting and have the camera set to only fire when it achieves focus. I then pan with the shutter held down and the camera fires when it achieves focus. I get some part birds that way but some good ones too.

For animals in slower situtations and where I want the background I set exposure to matrix and release to single shot. I often use P mode and fiddle to get as much f-stop as I can with a shutter speed at least one over the lens mm.
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Feb 20, 2013 08:53:37   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Eugene wrote:
Thanks for reply..Why do you set WB to cloudy if it's sunny?



I am happy with auto white balance 99% of the time.

If I expect a real keeper shot I shoot in RAW and play with it later.

If the shot has a lot of white (like the example below) I'll up the EV or bracket.







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Feb 20, 2013 09:24:49   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
Eugene wrote:
I like to shoot in manual mode (auto focus). However, I would like to get into wildlife a little more.
What setting do you use while shooting wildlife? I have found that in manual mode, by the time I get the exposure correct, the moment is gone.
Any tricks or secrets you would like to share would be appreciated.


I shoot birds and wildlife in manual exposure 99% of the time.
The trick is learning to adjust your settings as the light and subjects change.
For instance if you are set up for white bird (like egrets) action in bright light you may be set at ISO 200, 2000 shutter at f8. But if a darker bird like a GBH comes swooping in you have be able to change your settings on the fly so to speak to something like 1250 shutter at 6.3 or 7.1 or it will be too dark.
Are both birds in the same scene? For instance a GBH is chasing an egret for it's fish. Well then that's the real tricky part. You have to choose a mid point as best as you can. I generally default to trying to maintain detail in the white birds and letting the GBH go a bit dark.

For examples of birds and wildlife where virtually all were shot in M feel free to check out my photo blog which I update daily.
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Phil... I visited your website as was amazed at the variety and quality of the wildlife photos there. GREAT work!!!

Question... what camera and lenses do you use? The clarity and sharpness of your photos are outstanding! That is something that has so far eluded me. I will keep trying, though...

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Feb 20, 2013 09:31:57   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Eugene wrote:
I like to shoot in manual mode (auto focus). However, I would like to get into wildlife a little more.
What setting do you use while shooting wildlife? I have found that in manual mode, by the time I get the exposure correct, the moment is gone.
Any tricks or secrets you would like to share would be appreciated.


About 2/3 my shooting is wildlife with long lenses. The number one thing I use is Aperture Priority (mostly from F8 to F11) as I find it most important to control depth of field with these lenses. I make sure my shutter speed is at least the focal length of the lens by adjusting the ISO to the lighting I have to work with. I usually use spot metering because it actually covers a fairly large area on lenses from 500 to 800mm. And I set my WB to automatic so I do not have to worry about it. I also shoot in RAW so I can make the tweaks I need to make later on. And except for BIF shots, I ALWAYS shoot wildlife from a tripod.
Good luck

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Feb 20, 2013 09:34:35   #
Fergus Loc: Westfield,IN
 
Evie wrote:
You can do what I do and just go out and have fun.


Evie
The shot of the tiny bird is really extra special. I think it's a warbler of some kind.

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Feb 20, 2013 09:37:13   #
PAO Loc: Lewiston NY
 
Eugene,

I too have missed many opportunities with manual settings. Usually will just set the camera to 1/500 sec shutter priority and go from there. I found this to be the best for me.

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Feb 20, 2013 09:38:04   #
sleepy51 Loc: Makoshika Park--Montana
 
I always leave my auto-focus on, whenever I shoot wildlife in the Wild, if I'm shooting in a Zoo I use Manual. This is what happens when I try doing "Both".

My Blurry Bear
My Blurry Bear...

Yellowstone Park
Yellowstone Park...

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Feb 20, 2013 09:51:39   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
Gitchigumi wrote:
Swamp Gator wrote:
Eugene wrote:
I like to shoot in manual mode (auto focus). However, I would like to get into wildlife a little more.
What setting do you use while shooting wildlife? I have found that in manual mode, by the time I get the exposure correct, the moment is gone.
Any tricks or secrets you would like to share would be appreciated.


I shoot birds and wildlife in manual exposure 99% of the time.
The trick is learning to adjust your settings as the light and subjects change.
For instance if you are set up for white bird (like egrets) action in bright light you may be set at ISO 200, 2000 shutter at f8. But if a darker bird like a GBH comes swooping in you have be able to change your settings on the fly so to speak to something like 1250 shutter at 6.3 or 7.1 or it will be too dark.
Are both birds in the same scene? For instance a GBH is chasing an egret for it's fish. Well then that's the real tricky part. You have to choose a mid point as best as you can. I generally default to trying to maintain detail in the white birds and letting the GBH go a bit dark.

For examples of birds and wildlife where virtually all were shot in M feel free to check out my photo blog which I update daily.
quote=Eugene I like to shoot in manual mode (auto... (show quote)


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Phil... I visited your website as was amazed at the variety and quality of the wildlife photos there. GREAT work!!!

Question... what camera and lenses do you use? The clarity and sharpness of your photos are outstanding! That is something that has so far eluded me. I will keep trying, though...
quote=Swamp Gator quote=Eugene I like to shoot i... (show quote)


Thanks very much for your interest and kind words about my photos, I appreciate it.

I use Canon 7D bodies and most of the photos are taken with a Canon 300 4 with a Canon 1.4 extender attached.
For closer subjects I usually have a Canon 70-200 2.8 on the second 7D camera.

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Feb 20, 2013 10:34:21   #
OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee
 
Very nice
MtnMan wrote:
Eugene wrote:
Thanks for reply..Why do you set WB to cloudy if it's sunny?



I am happy with auto white balance 99% of the time.

If I expect a real keeper shot I shoot in RAW and play with it later.

If the shot has a lot of white (like the example below) I'll up the EV or bracket.

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Feb 20, 2013 10:36:48   #
buglinbilly Loc: Murray, Utah
 
My main interest in photography is shooting wildlife. I am just a beginner and I have a lot to learn, but I most shoot in the aperture setting with as low of ISO as possible.

I try hard to shoot off a tripod, as I too normally shoot with a big lens.

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Feb 20, 2013 10:46:06   #
twna Loc: Western Colorado
 
buglinbilly wrote:
My main interest in photography is shooting wildlife. I am just a beginner and I have a lot to learn, but I most shoot in the aperture setting with as low of ISO as possible.

I try hard to shoot off a tripod, as I too normally shoot with a big lens.


These are very nice shots. And to everyone else who has commented here, thanks for sharing your expertise. It is so helpful to hear from you all.

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Feb 20, 2013 11:52:46   #
PipesCJ7 Loc: Cordova, Alaska/Shoreline, WA/ Merritt, BC
 
Eugene wrote:
I like to shoot in manual mode (auto focus). However, I would like to get into wildlife a little more.
What setting do you use while shooting wildlife? I have found that in manual mode, by the time I get the exposure correct, the moment is gone.
Any tricks or secrets you would like to share would be appreciated.


Not sure what camera and lens you use? I shoot wildlife and high speed sports. Use a Nikon D3 and 200x400VR set on Auto. let the technology take over and you will get amazing results.

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Feb 20, 2013 12:19:24   #
OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee
 
Nice shots.
buglinbilly wrote:
My main interest in photography is shooting wildlife. I am just a beginner and I have a lot to learn, but I most shoot in the aperture setting with as low of ISO as possible.

I try hard to shoot off a tripod, as I too normally shoot with a big lens.

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Feb 20, 2013 12:20:30   #
OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee
 
I use a Nikon D3000 (thinking of upgrading) and my wildlife lense would be the Nikor 55 to 300.
PipesCJ7 wrote:
Eugene wrote:
I like to shoot in manual mode (auto focus). However, I would like to get into wildlife a little more.
What setting do you use while shooting wildlife? I have found that in manual mode, by the time I get the exposure correct, the moment is gone.
Any tricks or secrets you would like to share would be appreciated.


Not sure what camera and lens you use? I shoot wildlife and high speed sports. Use a Nikon D3 and 200x400VR set on Auto. let the technology take over and you will get amazing results.
quote=Eugene I like to shoot in manual mode (auto... (show quote)

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Feb 20, 2013 12:21:10   #
OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee
 
I think that is where I will start.
PAO wrote:
Eugene,

I too have missed many opportunities with manual settings. Usually will just set the camera to 1/500 sec shutter priority and go from there. I found this to be the best for me.

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