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Sep 15, 2011 21:26:00   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
RachelB wrote:
I would love to see what you have done, Perry. Please do post your result. I have Photoshop CS5 but haven't even begun working with layers. I like the natural outdoorsy feeling of the background (a tree) because it is a natural setting for a hummingbird.

I hope to learn how to work with layers. It's intimidating, though!

Bokeh is the blur in out-of-focus areas of an image.


Thanks for your permission, I have also did an HDR merge with it as well. I will show you both of them. I hope you like them.

This is with the enhancements I indicated at first.
This is with the enhancements I indicated at first...

This is with the HDR merge. I took a deliberately "overexposed" setting and married the 2 together, and a few adjustments, and I got this.
This is with the HDR merge. I took a deliberately ...

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Sep 15, 2011 21:33:39   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
I could run with either one of those. Excellent work.

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Sep 15, 2011 21:46:19   #
Leopold Lysloff
 
Very nice and not having the doctored up look.
You have a great picture to work with as well.

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Sep 15, 2011 21:46:50   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
gessman wrote:
I could run with either one of those. Excellent work.


Thank you very much gessman, I was torn between the 2 as well. I liked the rich colors of the darker one with the detail of the wings, and I liked the green on the bird's body in the HDR version as well. I wonder if it would work to HDR merge the both of them to get the best of both worlds?

I may try it, but I am afraid I might actually degrade the image if I monkey with it too much... lol

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Sep 15, 2011 21:48:24   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
Leopold Lysloff wrote:
Very nice and not having the doctored up look.
You have a great picture to work with as well.


Absolutely, her picture was beautiful as is. That is where the saying "less is more" comes into play.

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Sep 15, 2011 21:56:13   #
Leopold Lysloff
 
Wildlife is never easy and very unpredictable. Humming bird pictures are like trying to get a picture of a bullet. (it's great that they hover a little but they dart like crazy). Some pros go through thousands of shots before they can get a winning one. Keep it up RachelB.

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Sep 15, 2011 21:58:06   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Perry wrote:
gessman wrote:
I could run with either one of those. Excellent work.


Thank you very much gessman, I was torn between the 2 as well. I liked the rich colors of the darker one with the detail of the wings, and I liked the green on the bird's body in the HDR version as well. I wonder if it would work to HDR merge the both of them to get the best of both worlds?

I may try it, but I am afraid I might actually degrade the image if I monkey with it too much... lol


Well, there's always "oooops!" Go for it. I'd like to see and don't really feel like I've got anything to lose. I might regret it later but right now I'm feeling like, 'what tha hell, you only live once."

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Sep 15, 2011 22:02:36   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
gessman wrote:
Perry wrote:
gessman wrote:
I could run with either one of those. Excellent work.


Thank you very much gessman, I was torn between the 2 as well. I liked the rich colors of the darker one with the detail of the wings, and I liked the green on the bird's body in the HDR version as well. I wonder if it would work to HDR merge the both of them to get the best of both worlds?

I may try it, but I am afraid I might actually degrade the image if I monkey with it too much... lol


Well, there's always "oooops!" Go for it. I'd like to see and don't really feel like I've got anything to lose. I might regret it later but right now I'm feeling like, 'what tha hell, you only live once."
quote=Perry quote=gessman I could run with eithe... (show quote)


Yeah, that's what my experimental side says too. I will see if I can't mess with it some tomorrow night.

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Sep 15, 2011 22:18:03   #
liv2paddle Loc: Wall, NJ
 
I think lelliclaire's suggestion is terrific..I tried it and it works. It took all of one minute..(thanks lelliclaire)I used refine edge after I made the selection..to make sure I got all the wing etc.. Just capturing those little creatures is a challenge..so bravo!

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Sep 16, 2011 07:47:14   #
jwegge11 Loc: Stillwater, MN
 
Lauren--I agree with most--that is a great shot. I recently fell in love with shooting hummingbirds. My best advice other that sheer patience is to change your angle just slightly and you'll be amazed at what it can do. When I took these shots last week that I am attaching, I had a very annoying bright spot showing up in the background. I dropped down maybe a foot and got a nicer, softer background.

Good work and enjoy the 'process' and what He has put in front of you to enjoy-- Jeff

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Sep 16, 2011 07:56:12   #
RockinRobinG Loc: The Middle of Nowhere, Nebraska
 
Beautiful. I agree with the others that it would be difficult to edit around the movement in the wings. Call me a 'purist'(or whatever name you may give me) but a photo taken in NATURE deserves a NATURAL background. Keep the photo as is...you have enough blur in the depth of field to make the bird pop.

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Sep 16, 2011 08:48:37   #
jwegge11 Loc: Stillwater, MN
 
PS-- I'm TRYING to upload pics with no luck and they are jpegs??? hmmmmm

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Sep 16, 2011 09:32:18   #
arphot Loc: Massachusetts
 
Lauren wrote:
tilde531 wrote:
I guess I still think like the amateur that I am or something... because, for me... the background doesn't detract from this photo at all.



Thanks for your opinion! Maybe I am being too critical, but I figure if there is a way to improve it I want to learn. Good opportunity anyway to experiment. :-)
Lauren


I'm not sure improve would be accurate(IMO). This is a very nice image and I wouldn't change it. Of course, it could be made different; interesting in another way. And Photoshop or some other similar image editing program will allow you to make a selection of your subject and place it agains a different background.

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Sep 16, 2011 11:33:49   #
Bobbee
 
In short, it is what happens to the foreground and background when your depth of Field DOF is very small. The larger the opening on a lens (ie the smaller the f stop number) the more light comes in but the shorted the DOF. So while you subject is in focus, everything is out of focus so you subject stands out. Very good in Portrait photography or when you want to make an artistic statement about something.

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Sep 16, 2011 11:35:47   #
Bobbee
 
BTW, there are prime lens's that have extra rings on them to allow you to enhance this aspect (ie Nikor 105mm) While I do not have any experience with these lens's I have seen pictures from them and I tink the same can be said for Lens Baby lens's

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