Rich Maher Loc: Sonoma County, CA

More blood on the NRA executives hands.

TimS Loc: GA

Really? I did not realize the NRA personally armed everyone involved and mentored the victims to inform them to take the shooter to a range and then told the guy to shoot two people.

Thanks for letting us all know that! It's amazing what the MSM doesn't report!

Rich Maher Loc: Sonoma County, CA

The NRA is against background checks. More massacres by mentally deranged people = blood on their hands.

TimS Loc: GA

Allow me to pose a few inescapable truths:

1. No matter what happens with gun laws, there will always be shootings.
2. Many shootings will involve people that legally bought and owned guns.
3. Many shootings will involve people that did not legally buy and own guns.
4. Many shootings will involve people who had significant training in firearms. Many will not.
5. The amount of training does not reduce the probability of death by firearm to zero.

Despite the above, I still would like to have the ability to decide for MYSELF whether I want to own a firearm or not and what type of weapon to own.

If someone posted on UHH everytime a gun is used in a crime, well have tens of thousands of posts. What's the point? If you want to try and convince gun owners to give up their guns because of actions if other people : it's not going to happen. If you want to convince crime lovers...we I mean gun haters to support guns then its also not going to happen.

TimS Loc: GA

Lets try and be factual here. Please describe the specific nexus that the NRA had to the shooter. The NRA doesn't pass laws - that's Congress' job if yo weren't aware. No amount of lobbying will change who is responsible or making laws.

LARRYR. Loc: Saint Martinville, La.

Who's hands were the blood of the massacre at Fort Hood
on, the Military. Or did you forget about them ? Would a
back ground check have help them any? Don't be shy, any
liberial can reply.

rone Loc: Ohio

Dear Mr. Maher,
My wife & I are members of the NRA & have been for years. I am licensed for concealed carry, also for years (as is my right). All the laws that have been passed affect me, not criminals. I am the one that that gets the background checks, training & license to do this not criminals.
The NRA accepts the need for background checks, but fights against registration. Remember criminals will not get background checks or registration for their firearms, knifes or ball bats.
Everyone that talks about the AR-15 & how bad it is usually don’t know what they are talking about. The AR-15 platform is a semi-automatic rifle that is used for target, hunting & self defense, (be it home or personal). It is no different than any semi-automatic rifle that has been made for 100 years. In fact, it is less powerful than the 30-06, .308 & 7mm magnum calibers that have been in use, again for years. The AR-15 sold for civilian use is not the same as the military version.
I just wish people would get their facts straight before they start repeating things they hear on the biased news.

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

Is there an echo in here? I give a reply and the same fricking question comes back. :roll: Once again maybe it's not what you want to hear so it doesn't register. :shock:

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

In the military you are trained to work and fight along side of the people in your detachment. You have to literally trust them with your life. So when I heard that Chris took a friend to the range to help him through some issues, I didn't give it a thought that he was in the wrong for doing so. Obviously it was a mistake, but I can see how it could happen. And I'm sure he didn't give it a thought either that his comrade that he trained with would do him harm or the outcome would have been totally different.

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

I would have offered as much help as possible but I don't think the firing range would have been one of the options. As I stated before we'll never know the whole story and why that decision was made. It's sad but not a gun control issue by any means. :thumbup:

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

Using hind sight always enlightens people as to how it should have happened. But when you're in the moment one never knows just what you will do until you do it.

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

What I can't understand is this was not a snap decision. A little common sense would say "don't take the guy to a firing range." :roll:

C. David Loc: Wisconsin

TimS...Do you ever think about the subject before you type? Perhaps the sound of gun-fire put him over the edge. I see it as a bunch of people that went out to do some shooting and one obviously had issues. All the facts have, as of yet, not been presented, so until all the information is available I believe it would serve you well before you open your yap and talk of nothing that you think you know something about, not to say a Damn thing. But if you feel you must yammer-on about things that you have NO CLUE of, or ever will know anything of, go for it. Ignorance makes for, at times, a good read. You have all the rope you need, let's hear more of your profound thoughts. 8-)

C. David Loc: Wisconsin

OUTSTANDING REPLY SOURDOUGH
:thumbup: :thumbup: 8-)

mooseeyes Loc: Sonora, California

You sir are 100% wrong! The problem here is very simple. You and I agree that mentally deranged people should not have guns - right? Also, the NRA agrees that mentally deranged people should not have guns, and that is an absolute fact from someone high up in the NRA - me!

Now Mr. "Smartie Pants", just who are these mentally deranged people? You see, the NRA takes the very logical position that until the mental patient records are put into a computer data base (which they are not now), any background check will not detect these people, and only serve to impair the rights of good lawful citizens like you and me. I understand this, you do not. The liberals refuse to even consider putting mental patient reconds into a useable data base, because they don't want to step on the rights of these mentally deranged people!

Next time one of these mentally deranged people kills a bunch of defenseless children, women and other good citizens, you have my permission to blame the liberals and the ACLU for their not wanting us to be able to ID these dangers to society.

If someone comes down with certain contagious maladies, doctors are required to report this fact; however, this is not the case with mental disorders. . .heaven forbid we put these people on a data base and prohibit them from buying guns. . .my lord how unfair would that be, even if it could stop future mass shootings of innocent people!

The NRA has stated time and time again, put the problem mental cases in a data base where we can stop them from walking in and otherwise legally buying weapons, then proper and legal background checks would make sense and be supported by the NRA.

If you want to stop guns from getting into the wrong hands, then kick you Senators and Representatives in the butt and get the ticking time bombs into a "no gun allowed" data base! The NRA cannot make this happen. It is ironic that those who can won't, and then point a false finger of blame at the NRA.

You can educate away ignorance; but, you can't fix stupid!