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Jan 29, 2013 22:22:23   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Obama did in fact reduce illegal immigration, but not intentionally. It was just the drying up of the job market that sent some people home, not increased enforcement of our borders.

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Jan 29, 2013 23:13:20   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
PNagy wrote:

Some of your alarmism is not justified by the facts. Obama, without fanfare, has reduced the illegal immigration rate to nearly zero, after a high of a million a year. What is the reason you expect the border patrol to be relaxed after passage of this law? The other question is almost rhetorical, what would you do with the illegals already here?


I guess we can credit Mr. Obama with accomplishments for which he is not responsible...his dance-card isn't, by any means, full. I suspect our failing economy is the reason for low illegal immigration.
What do we tell the LEGAL immigrants who are waiting in line, learning the language, learning American history, and civics? Give THEM a short statement PNagy.

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Jan 29, 2013 23:20:32   #
tschmath Loc: Los Angeles
 
Danilo wrote:
PNagy wrote:

Some of your alarmism is not justified by the facts. Obama, without fanfare, has reduced the illegal immigration rate to nearly zero, after a high of a million a year. What is the reason you expect the border patrol to be relaxed after passage of this law? The other question is almost rhetorical, what would you do with the illegals already here?


I guess we can credit Mr. Obama with accomplishments for which he is not responsible...his dance-card isn't, by any means, full. I suspect our failing economy is the reason for low illegal immigration.
What do we tell the LEGAL immigrants who are waiting in line, learning the language, learning American history, and civics? Give THEM a short statement PNagy.
quote=PNagy br Some of your alarmism is not just... (show quote)


If you had taken the time to read anything about Pres. Obama's proposal or the current Senate proposal, you would know that after a very thorough background check, paying back taxes, paying a fine and learning English, all illegal immigrants would go to the back of the line behind everybody currently applying for legal status.

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Jan 29, 2013 23:22:51   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
LARRYR. wrote:
Just wondering what will happen once all these
poor illegals become American citizens and start
demanding that all these companies they now work
for, starts paying them minimum wages( which is
why they aren't hireing legal citizens to begain
with) plus Hoilday and vacation time, sick leave,
health care,40 hr. work week. Wonder what they will
think of once all these first batch of illegals
becomes American citizens how they will cope with
the next batch coming in. Dont forget there want be
any more cheap labor, they'll all be in UNIONS at a
fair price.May be if every thing turn out the way
OBAMA wants it too, we may finally get reid of all
those over paid in CONGRESS and we'll replace them
with MINIMUM paid illegals who are now American
politians, I mean citizens.Just a thought
Just wondering what will happen once all these br ... (show quote)


You just recounted the evolution of American Labor beginning in the 1890's through to today. Read through want you posted and take into consideration that the immigrants were coming from European countries...man that was dead on history.

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Jan 30, 2013 00:14:04   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
PNagy wrote:
Some of your alarmism is not justified by the facts. Obama, without fanfare, has reduced the illegal immigration rate to nearly zero, after a high of a million a year. What is the reason you expect the border patrol to be relaxed after passage of this law? The other question is almost rhetorical, what would you do with the illegals already here?
Another Obama butt kisser claiming everything Obama does is wonderful and good even if it isn't deserved. The facts are illegal immigration is down because of the poor economy and the illegals can't find work so they are staying away. When things improve, they will be heading north again.

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Jan 30, 2013 00:36:48   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
tschmath wrote:

If you had taken the time to read anything about Pres. Obama's proposal or the current Senate proposal, you would know that after a very thorough background check, paying back taxes, paying a fine and learning English, all illegal immigrants would go to the back of the line behind everybody currently applying for legal status.


Thank you, tschmath, I stand corrected.

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Jan 30, 2013 00:57:11   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
tschmath,
you are so right they will go to the end of the line, but wait where is the end of that line, for the Illegals it is right here , enjoying the wealth of our nation, but the Legals at the front of the line are still in their old homeland waiting.
Doesn't seem right or fair to me.

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Jan 30, 2013 06:53:04   #
LARRYR. Loc: Saint Martinville, La.
 
tschmath wrote:
Danilo wrote:
PNagy wrote:

Some of your alarmism is not justified by the facts. Obama, without fanfare, has reduced the illegal immigration rate to nearly zero, after a high of a million a year. What is the reason you expect the border patrol to be relaxed after passage of this law? The other question is almost rhetorical, what would you do with the illegals already here?


I guess we can credit Mr. Obama with accomplishments for which he is not responsible...his dance-card isn't, by any means, full. I suspect our failing economy is the reason for low illegal immigration.
What do we tell the LEGAL immigrants who are waiting in line, learning the language, learning American history, and civics? Give THEM a short statement PNagy.
quote=PNagy br Some of your alarmism is not just... (show quote)


If you had taken the time to read anything about Pres. Obama's proposal or the current Senate proposal, you would know that after a very thorough background check, paying back taxes, paying a fine and learning English, all illegal immigrants would go to the back of the line behind everybody currently applying for legal status.
quote=Danilo quote=PNagy br Some of your alarmi... (show quote)


You forgot to add putting a tooth under your pillow
for the tooth fairy and wait for the Easter Bunny to
pass before these requirements will be inforced.
They can't inforce the laws that would have stop
these illegals from coming here in the first place
and you think the onointed one will inforce these.
My advice for those that are here LEGALLY would
be for them to return home, cross back into the
US illegally, and have a better chance under this
administration of becoming an American citizen,
I wouldn't count on being in front of any lines, unless
your a legal American and waiting in the unemployment
line.

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Jan 30, 2013 09:30:32   #
Raider Fan Loc: Lake County, IL.
 
Danilo wrote:
Watch 'em lock the border down solid when the current batch of illegals start to leave!


I would not hold my breath waiting for the government to "lock down" the border. If they were capable of doing it I would have hoped it would have been done by now.

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Jan 30, 2013 14:31:19   #
GregC Loc: Alabaster, Al
 
I was thinking we already have immigration laws. Why don't not just enforce those?

Creating more laws, that's what they do!

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Jan 30, 2013 16:24:59   #
LARRYR. Loc: Saint Martinville, La.
 
GregC wrote:
I was thinking we already have immigration laws. Why don't not just enforce those?

Creating more laws, that's what they do!


It's what they do best, the more laws the law abiding
citizens have to put up with, the less work they have to
do while their in Congress, something like SEE more
and Do less.

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Jan 30, 2013 16:30:51   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
If we just enforce them it implies that the POLITICIANS HAVE NOT BEEN DOING THEIR JOBS . Reform or fixing takes away the responsibility for their failures and puts it on the backs of those that governed before them. A political trick at best.
Is it any wonder that we are in such a mess when national and local news broadcasts are primarily covering the Weather, Sports and Entertainment. The average American is more concerned with Lindsey Lohan than Syria, Egypt, or Iran.

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