SteveR Loc: Michigan

I am one Republican that was not happy about Iraq. Afghanistan, however, was another question. If we had focused on Afghanistan and capturing Bin Laden, it might have finished sooner. I'm sure that Bush figured he'd be in an out of Iraq in no time. It didn't work out that way. However, now that the wars are winding down, let's concentrate on sound economic policy.

beamer01 Loc: West Palm Beach

Yeh theirs no time like present to get the check book in order! An you really think thats whats going in washington??? Ok what is the plan???? Where is the plan??? Who blinks first???? Or is it just another pissing contest??? We will see!

SteveR Loc: Michigan

First on the agenda.....a budget. Republicans will allow the debt ceiling to rise for three months if the Democrats will put forth a budget.

ted45 Loc: Delaware

You forget that the Democrats voted unanimously for both of those wars. They controlled the house and the senate for four years during which either or both wars could have been shut down. Obama has had four years to make good on his promise to shut them down. Iraq shut down based on the Bush plan.

Just on the news Obama has agreed to supply the muslim brotherhood with F16's and Abrams tanks in the Middle East. After walking us into Libya and Syria what does he think giving tanks and fighter jets to the agressors is going to do? According to the news he is giving them the weapons not selling them.

Since taking office, in violation of the constitution, Obamas government has yet to pass the required budget. The House passed it's first budget after the Republians took control but the Senate has yet to follow suit.

You libs are very good at ignoring the facts.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

If these groups opt for Sharia law, they will certainly have the military hardware to beat back any opposition.

beamer01 Loc: West Palm Beach

Oh let's watch the righties blame the lefties for the war in Iraq! But who was it that had pictures of WMD's in Iraq!!! Dame them Lefties :hunf: It's a good thing the righties had Haliburton so they could collect all that money that them liberals were spending! Hope I got it right this time????

Gnslngr

Well, we are pretty good at ignoring the "facts" in your post. Of ten sentences, only one of them is arguably true. And the nonsense I've put in bold above shows you to be a bit eager to ignore not only facts, but whole swaths of reality. Really, you need to read something other than right wing screeds.

Boxing shadows is a hard habit to break - you think you always win the match. But trust me, if you step into reality, you'll be a lot happier. And you'll be a better American, too. :thumbup:

Danilo Loc: Las Vegas

You don't have "ole sarg" or "tschmath".

cameraniac Loc: Huntingburg, Indiana

Done! Many thanks, Danilo. I admire your acute awareness 8-)



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ted45 Loc: Delaware

If anything I wrote is untrue perhaps you can correct me. I am always open to the truth and aware that I sometimes make mistakes. Just writing a bunch of non-sense accusations doesn't exactly refute what I said.

As for your remark about "always win the match", that is just pure nonsense. None of us are winning anything here. The Politian’s in DC have created a third class and you and I aren't in it. They are the only ones coming out ahead. Perhaps you haven't noticed that, just like the National Debt, Obama's personal wealth has tripled since taking office.

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

Quit lying...It wasn't the "righties", it was a failure of our intelligence on the WMD claim. Put the blame on the CIA where it belongs

ted45 Loc: Delaware

Read a history book. Bush went into Iraq based on a UN resolution after the UN inspection team was thrown out of the country in violation of international law. We were part of an international force, not a sole invader. The intel that Iraq had WMD's was put together by the CIA and MI5 from the UK and presented to the UN. We were asked by the UN to go in and our Congress, both parties, agreed unanimously. They did it with the blessing of the American public. We are all to blame not just the "lefties" or the "righties" as you refer to them.

Personally, I think Bush was too eager to go after Sadam because of his attempt to kill HW Bush.

Gnslngr

Bush's team (Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al) had talked about invading Iraq since the nineties. (see The Project for a New Century) and had made it clear it was for oil (Cheney, CEO of Haliburton, said on June 23, 1998, "The good Lord didn't see fit to put oil and gas only where there are democratically elected regimes friendly to the United States.", talking about Iraq). Once they were in power, they officially refused to look at any evidence of Saddam's compliance with the UN resolution and instead instructed the CIA to get evidence that he had violated it. Many good men and women in the CIA and DOD tried to convince them to look at the truth but they were rebuffed.

That's the history. On the first National Security meeting, January 31, 2001, Saddam's removal is top item of Bush's national security team. In fact, the only subject discussed was the removal of Saddam. Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill later recalls, "It was all about finding a way to do it. The president saying, 'Go find me a way to do this.'"

There's more, but you get the picture. They came into power with the express idea of invading Iraq. They lied to us and did just that. It WAS Bush and his team. :thumbup:

ted45 Loc: Delaware

Ok, I'll go with the obvious response: if it was about oil where is it? From what I have found the bulk of Iraq's oil is going to China and Russia. We are importing most our our stuff from South America and Saudi Arabia.

Gnslngr

Oh....I didn't say or imply that Bush's team was competent enough to get what they wanted. They botched both the war and their ultimate goal. I was only talking about how we got into the war in the first place. :thumbup: