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Jan 1, 2013 13:43:02   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
bull drink water wrote:
Festina Lente wrote:
bull drink water wrote:
enough already, can't you get it through your heads yet, dng is a raw format. a thing can't be vs itself.
Patience, grasshopper, patience.
It is a learning curve. That is why we are all here.
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Pull one out for me too, OK?
A Kings Brewing Mocha Java Stout would be nice...
Good beer from a great town.

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Jan 4, 2013 20:46:03   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
I have A Nikon D300 and a Canon S50. The Canon is one of the first point and shoots to produce a 5MP RAW file, in the CRW format. I use DNG so I can interchange files from both cameras. Users of Aperature, and some other software will find that CRW is no longer a supported format. Adobe supports more abandoned formats and allows conversion to DNG. That is enough to make it my choice.

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Jan 5, 2013 00:21:12   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
romanticf16 wrote:
I have A Nikon D300 and a Canon S50. The Canon is one of the first point and shoots to produce a 5MP RAW file, in the CRW format. I use DNG so I can interchange files from both cameras. Users of Aperature, and some other software will find that CRW is no longer a supported format. Adobe supports more abandoned formats and allows conversion to DNG. That is enough to make it my choice.
Interesting. And a good point. Thanks.

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Jan 5, 2013 19:45:36   #
Singinman Loc: Newport News, VA
 
This reinforces my earlier point. We need a universal format for historical continuity

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Jan 6, 2013 00:44:33   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Singinman wrote:
This reinforces my earlier point. We need a universal format for historical continuity


Two hundred years ago, the high-tech solution for challenges in drayage was a horse or a mule, maybe even an ox.

Twenty years ago, the high-tech solution to a good print was a clean negative.

Today the solution we had thought to preservation of the digital image, the RAW file (in its many forms) is being challenged by the DNG file, and, while it isn't the perfect answer, it is a lot better than what we have been using. Maybe next year or in the coming years, a better solution will be found. But, for now, I am sufficiently satisfied with DNG that I am converting my Panasonic RAW files to DNG. When Adobe (or whoever) develops the next generation of ultimate file storage software, I hope they give a way to upgrade our old DNG files, just as they gave us DNG Converter.

But, whatever happens, be assured that something will come along someday that is even better than DNG. That is the recurring lesson of history.

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Jan 6, 2013 15:50:09   #
Singinman Loc: Newport News, VA
 
Yes. There is more chance that historical continuity will be maintained for a "universal" format than for all the many proprietary formats.

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Jan 7, 2013 02:44:49   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
Mogul wrote:
Yes, DNG is still evolving - and that unending evolution is just what the photo industry needs. The question here is less technical and more semantic. Is DNG a RAW format? By definition, the answer is "not quite yet." ..
With Leica and Pentax offering it as a RAW file direct from camera, it is by definition a RAW file.
There is no "not quite yet" about it.

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Jan 7, 2013 14:12:05   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
mdorn wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
Would Chevy and Chrysler put standard 7 hole wheels on their vehicles just because Ford invented them? Absolutely not. In the case of DNG it was not even developed by an equipment manufacturer, but by an independent software developer. Who also had PSD first but its still all theirs too.


So there is no hope of it ever becoming a standard? I guess it doesn't really need to become one, but it would be nice if they could all agree on one. I won't hold my breath, nor will I store all my images this way.
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The DNG format is still a RAW format. As long as you're using Adobe tools to work with your images, it simply doesn't matter. Even if you want to take an image to another piece of software for editing, export it as a TIF and have at it. I debated this same issue/topic when I decided on Lightroom. Finally realized I was wasting energy worrying about it.

When importing to Lightroom, there's an option to save your original RAW images (from the camera) in a different location while the import is changing them to DNG for Lightroom.

It's all good. The eventuality of it is that they will likely end up as a JPG somewhere along the line, anyway.

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