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May 4, 2024 08:22:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Laptop batteries are more likely to swell than camera batteries because you charge them in the laptop.

We had two laptops for about 10 years before we upgraded to new ones. Always plugged in, never swelled.

One would think that the designers would design the charging system to limit the charging rate and not over charge, and they know it's being charged in the device.(Except maybe for the dollar-two-ninety-eight third party chargers.....)
Oh, wait, they probably did.


Maybe bad/questionable battery(s) with a propensity to swell to begin with?

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May 4, 2024 08:28:34   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I never had any problems with battery swelling until recently. I had to ditch a few Nikon branded batteries purchased from B&H purchased 3 years ago and used heavily since then. I started noticing the swelling when the batteries did not smoothly drop out of my Nikon Z body when I released the latch as they had previous done. I at first thought that the release spring had weakened, and only realized the batteries had swollen when I inserted a new one which popped normally when released.


Makes me wonder if the charger is any good. Nikon charger? The only issue I ever had with a battery swelling was an underwater scooter battery left hooked up to the charger for about a week. Use to leave for 2-3 days on some recharges for a few years with no problems until that happened. Anyway, the longest I leave my camera batteries in the charger now is overnight.

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May 4, 2024 08:32:25   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
billnikon wrote:
If the battery was not a OEM battery, that may have been the problem even if Fujifilm recommended it. Usually most camera manufactures only recommend there own brand for this very reason. Third party batteries, although many here swear by them, cause problems such as swelling and third party batteries usually only last a fraction of the time an OEM battery would.
Personally, the only batteries I trust are OEM batteries. I believe my $6500.00 camera deserves a $78.00 battery. That battery only costs a little over 1% of the total cost of the camera.
I am very surprised Fuji would recommend a third party battery for their cameras. If I were you I would notify Fuji of your situation because it reflects badly on Fuji to recommend a battery that swells in their cameras. You may just be doing them a big favor by notifying them of this issue.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.
If the battery was not a OEM battery, that may hav... (show quote)

I agree. Not worth the expense or hassle. My camera shop sold me an aftermarket that swelled. Claimed that they are “just as good.” Never had an OEM that did that.

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May 4, 2024 08:40:24   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
ronpier wrote:
I agree. Not worth the expense or hassle. My camera shop sold me an aftermarket that swelled. Claimed that they are “just as good.” Never had an OEM that did that.

It depends on the quality of manufacture.
Obviously some manufacturers are better quality.
All batteries have the propensity to swell at some point.
I've had two third party batteries (out of six) start to swell after about 6-8 years.
For the price, I can live with that. I simply monitor them.
We all have our individual expectations and tolerance levels, don't we.

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May 4, 2024 09:52:05   #
zarathu Loc: Bar Harbor, MDI, Maine
 
In 55 years of using Canon, I have never had a battery swell. My head swells sometimes but not the battery.

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May 4, 2024 09:52:16   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
larryepage wrote:
RCJets is correct, but he is probably being a little bit too gentle with everyone.

NiCd batteries are vented and will vent (leak) if charged at too high a rate or to too high a level. They will also leak spontaneously when old...usually because the relief valve in the vent fatigues and fails. This material is very corrosive to contacts and wiring. NiMh batteries also leaked occasionally, but much more rarely. Seems that their design was better and more mature, and their chargers better controlled what went on between them and the battery.

Lithium and its compounds are very reactive. Elemental lithium will react spontaneously with air. Some of the compounds may, as well.These batteries are sealed and will not leak. They may swell and rupture, and if they do rupture, there is very likely to be a very energetic reaction with the air. A swelled battery is on the path to rupture, and it is dangerous to handle it. DO NOT EVER drill into a swelled lithium battery or grab it with pliers or similar tools. You could easily find yourself on fire.

I do not ask anyone to take my word on this. Do some reading about lithium and its compounds in a reliable reference source. Don't end up a charred pile of residue just to try to prove a point.
RCJets is correct, but he is probably being a litt... (show quote)



Good to know. Next time I have a battery swell a little in my camera and can't pull it out I'll I'll take a rag and put a little amount of Alcohol on and wipe the bottom of the battery to remove any oils etc. and glue something with on the bottom with a very small amount of crazy glue and pull on it.

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May 4, 2024 10:09:56   #
ecobin Loc: Paoli, PA
 
I leave batteries in the cameras that I use regularly - not in those that I hardly use. I have had other batteries (in electronic gear) swell/leak and ruin the contacts - lesson learned. Toss that swollen battery (recycle it) and get a new one.

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May 4, 2024 10:20:04   #
Canisdirus
 
When I put my cameras away for the day...all batteries are removed.

I use dry boxes, and batteries are stored elsewhere.

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May 4, 2024 10:58:18   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
hugEDhog wrote:
I had to use a long nose pliers to remove the battery from its slot where it pops up because of spring action. The last shoot was only a month ago. How could it expand that fast. Battery is one recommended by Fujifilm.
I know manuals say to remove batteries when not in use for an EXTENDED PERIOD of time. How long is that?
Can you restore the enlarged battery to its former size? Hoggers here who have several cameras: how sure are you that a battery is not “hulking” in one of them. Do you have a method?
I had to use a long nose pliers to remove the batt... (show quote)


Throw it away.
It wasn't Original manufacrure I bet.

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May 4, 2024 11:19:29   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
tcthome wrote:
Makes me wonder if the charger is any good. Nikon charger? The only issue I ever had with a battery swelling was an underwater scooter battery left hooked up to the charger for about a week. Use to leave for 2-3 days on some recharges for a few years with no problems until that happened. Anyway, the longest I leave my camera batteries in the charger now is overnight.


I have no idea what caused them to swell. I only use Nikon chargers and remove batteries from them shortly after the charging process completes.

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May 4, 2024 11:25:59   #
johnblenko Loc: Pittsburgh
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Laptop batteries are more likely to swell than camera batteries because you charge them in the laptop.


Why would where the batteries are charged affect their swelling?

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May 4, 2024 11:31:46   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I have no idea what caused them to swell. I only use Nikon chargers and remove batteries from them shortly after the charging process completes.

It was simply their time.....

I bought a pack of AA alkalines one time, after a few months, one of the 40 leaked. Just one.
The rest were fine, and are still fine. All have the same "expiration" date.
It was just its time or a fluke.
Stuff happens, whether we want it to or not.

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May 4, 2024 11:34:49   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
I have read several articles in reliable printed sources that indicate that almost all violent failures or premature failures of rechargeable batteries can be traced to contamination in the battery chemistry. Better chemistry comes at a higher price, and buyers who are focused on price may choose less carefully produced chemistry at a significantly lower cost if they choose to do so.

Pretty much all individual battery cells are manufactured under contract in a few "foundries" in China. Some of those are assembled into finished batteries in China and many of the cells are shipped elsewhere for final assembly. Less clear is management of the control/protection chips that become part of the finished battery, especially those that are assembled in China.

The bottom line is that today's batteries are complex, high-energy devices. Not all batteries are equal, no matter how much we might want to try to make ourselves believe that they are. And yes...all batteries carry a risk of failure.

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May 4, 2024 11:40:30   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Longshadow wrote:
It was simply their time.....

I bought a pack of AA alkalines one time, after a few months, one of the 40 leaked. Just one.
The rest were fine, and are still fine. All have the same "expiration" date.
It was just its time or a fluke.
Stuff happens, whether we want it to or not.


If you stored them on a car and it was warm to hot that would cause batteries to go bad

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May 4, 2024 11:56:56   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
If you stored them on a car and it was warm to hot that would cause batteries to go bad

Nope. Bought them, brought them home, stored them in the downstairs pantry.
I would have expected more than 1 out of 40 though if it was a "batch" problem.

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