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May 1, 2024 10:25:02   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It's not so much knowing what to do as doing it. People know that they can race up the closing lane and force their way in up ahead.

That's not possible when both lanes are used as the signs instruct.

Have you, or the Shadow ever been through a lane closure where this signage was present? It sure doesn't sound like you have?

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May 1, 2024 10:30:10   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
There really shouldn’t be need for a sign. It should be taught as part of learning to drive.

I agree it should be taught but it's not. Where there is no signage, the problems always exist, it's human nature. Many refuse to use the closing lane, and some insist on using it causing all the problems with "free for all" merging.

The solution might be teaching correct procedure, but absent that, proper signage makes it clear what should be done, and in my experience, it always works with few or no problems.

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May 1, 2024 10:32:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BigDaddy wrote:
That's not possible when both lanes are used as the signs instruct.

Have you, or the Shadow ever been through a lane closure where this signage was present? It sure doesn't sound like you have?


Yes, I have - over the weekend - and it didn't make any difference. Except when two 18-wheelers blocked the traffic, cars raced ahead to cut in.

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May 1, 2024 11:00:46   #
Stephan G
 
In all the discussion, there is nothing said about "SAFE merging". It is almost like a dance step. It should be included in Driving Rules. Less stepping on toes and fender bending.

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May 1, 2024 11:23:36   #
Stephan G
 
Re: the semis blocking.

The use of 18-wheelers bunching up the traffic is, I believe, unlawful in just about all states in the US. The method does not work to mitigate the flow. It just adds more "merge points" which delays the flow of traffic.

In one instance, I observed a semi driving into the center divider to stay in front of a car that was attempting to "by-pass" the blockers. The semi almost fell over unto its side when the wheels dropped into the drainage ditch. I wish I was still a LEO at that point. I could have had a field day writing up that truck driver. He lucked out because he was not pulling a load and not hitting his brakes.

Oh, the by-pass vehicle got mired in the soft dirt towards the center. I am almost sure that he had a hard time explaining to the investigating officer as to why he decided to park that deep in the median.

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May 1, 2024 11:29:21   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Stephan G wrote:
Re: the semis blocking.

The use of 18-wheelers bunching up the traffic is, I believe, unlawful in just about all states in the US. The method does not work to mitigate the flow. It just adds more "merge points" which delays the flow of traffic.

In one instance, I observed a semi driving into the center divider to stay in front of a car that was attempting to "by-pass" the blockers. The semi almost fell over unto its side when the wheels dropped into the drainage ditch. I wish I was still a LEO at that point. I could have had a field day writing up that truck driver. He lucked out because he was not pulling a load and not hitting his brakes.
Re: the semis blocking. br br The use of 18-wheel... (show quote)


Well, it worked on Sunday because there wasn't a line of cars racing past me and cutting in later.

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May 1, 2024 11:51:24   #
Stephan G
 
JBuckley wrote:
I would consider a "freeway" a, true FREEWAY, if the driving was "free of stress" and without concern for
your health and safety of myself and passengers.

That would be a True Freeway, for me.


Some of us call it "Railroad".

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May 1, 2024 12:13:58   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, I have - over the weekend - and it didn't make any difference. Except when two 18-wheelers blocked the traffic, cars raced ahead to cut in.

So the signs said use both lanes and to merge only at the merge point, and two 18 wheelers still blocked one lane so both lanes could not be used. Very strange, never happened in my experiences. You must have some very illiterate truck drivers in your area. I've seen exactly that happen many times where signs don't instruct both lanes be used. In fact, if that were to actually happen, I'd imagine drivers in front of the trucks blocking the lanes would simply move in front of the trucks to use both lanes as instructed, and the trucks would never get to the merge point. I'm guessing because I never witnessed that happening to begin with.

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May 1, 2024 12:21:09   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Well, it worked on Sunday because there wasn't a line of cars racing past me and cutting in later.

Well, why did you ignore the signs instructing to use BOTH LANES to the merge point? How could anyone race past anyone if both lanes were full of cars backed up from the merge point?

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May 1, 2024 12:35:02   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
jerryc41 wrote:
You've all seen this situation. Two lanes are merging into one at a construction area - left to right. While you are sitting there in the right lane, dozens of cars are speeding by in the left lane. In a few minutes, they will try to cut into the line up ahead. If they didn't do that, there would not be much of a delay when merging lanes. On the way home from PA yesterday, I saw two 18-wheelers in the left lane holding back traffic. My friend talked to one driver at a rest area. He said that most drivers don't know how to merge, and that holds up traffic. When cars race up the left lane and try to cut in, I do everything I can to keep them out. They should be a mile behind me, not holding up the flow of traffic.
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You continue to express the opinion that humans have some intelligence. Why?

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May 5, 2024 15:34:44   #
fhayes Loc: Madison, Tennessee
 
I block the lane with my Honda CRV!

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