Rongnongno Loc: FL

Actually, we all do, ever since we had paint programs. The difference today is instead of learning how to do something, we learn to give instructions to a piece of **** with the vain hope it will do what we mean, think, want or desire.

Try that with a human being. There is what you said, what you mean then there is what is heard, what is interpreted... Then the human will look at you and depending on what he thinks of your words and how polite the person is, he will give you a completely unexpected answer or does something weird. OOPS, there goes intra personal communication.*

Seen that way, AI is a sharp regression on freedom to create, even if surreal scenes are created. Where are the skills? The know how? If we all give the same command we should all have the same results unless there is something really wrong with the so-called AI.

If I have to type or dictate something to create anything, I can just go back to writing weird stuff.

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I recall my brother-in-law asking his daughter (she was 25 or so) to bring him a coat hanger. She did, she bought the coat hanger next to the entrance...

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Interesting... I'm giving an "new Adobe AI tools" demo on Saturday to my retirement community's photo group. I'm wondering how much push back there will be from the reactionaries that are still wishing for SLRs loaded with Kodachrome.

Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

Those are all good questions Terry. I quite simply don't have a good answer which is why I posted this. It is something, I believe, that is going to have to be addressed in the near future

Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

Why indead. Check out some of the posts in the Digital Images in the in the past couple of weeks

srt101fan

You're right; there are lots of computer aided drawings. They are cool and I admire the creator's talent but I don't understand why they're on UHH.

R.G. Loc: Scotland

This is primarily a photography forum, and since there is a distinct difference between a photograph and an AI generated image we should carry on seeing this forum as a photography forum that also accommodates various creative activities such as the generation of AI images, AI-assisted post processing etc.

One of the most common motives in photography is our desire to create our own captures of whatever subjects we choose to capture. Our photographs become our own personal record of the reality of the captured moment. AI plays no part in that process. However, it can be used to help us deal with our less-than-perfect captures (which includes our mistakes).

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Jack, when you and others first expressed an interest in posting AI-generated images to Digital Artistry section, the co-manager (cwilson341) and I expanded the guidelines to accommodate.

As a result of doing that, we lost a couple of regular participants of the section, some of whom had been on UHH since I joined in 2012.

I'm recommending to Carol that we shut down Digital Artistry Forum. If she wants to keep it open, I'm going to step aside because I don't see any way in which we can satisfy all the creative interests displayed on UHH.

The lines have become blurred, for sure, and there is always going to be someone who is unhappy with what is allowed and what is not. Interesting times.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

There are about 40 volunteer-managed sections on UHH. Those sections are free to set their own rules within the overall requirements of UHH, such as no nudity or profanity, no copyright infringements, etc.

I remember a nasty fight when the Street Photography section first opened. That mess - which was about the definition of "street" photography - resulted in creation of yet another section, Traditional Street and Architecture

And there was turmoil early on in Critique Forum when people wanted to edit the OP's image and the then-manager (Nightski) said NO! So it became necessary for the OP to repost the pic in Post-Processing Forum for suggested edits.

I guess it was inevitable that the newest concern is about AI. Interesting times.

BebuLamar

Well we first have filmless photography then we have mirrorless cameras it's time for cameraless imaging. That is why they said less is more.

NJFrank Loc: New Jersey

If you close down digital artistry you will lose people in UHH. Some of us enjoy creating composites. Whether using some AI or completely AI. You can’t make everyone happy 100% of the time.
No one is putting a gun to your head telling the person you have to post there. If one does not like entries to the section , simply don’t subscribe.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Not a bad idea, but good luck with that. So, if I remove a branch across a birds face, I have to identify it as AI altered? What will the threshold be for reporting AI generated images?

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

I understand, Frank. We've already lost many creative folks from UHH for one reason or another.

Erich said he'd be visiting FYC this weekend. Perhaps that section will work for composites that contain only photographs taken by the OP. That's where I used to post mine

ecobin Loc: Paoli, PA

At some point in time new cameras will include some form of AI - perhaps to prevent blown out areas, or an AI white balance, etc. So, drawing the line about what's acceptable is very difficult to document as it's a moving target.
Personally, I'm not enamored with AI since it takes away from the photographer's skills. Maybe we should change this forum to a non-digital one - I still have several film cameras (lol).

Festus Loc: North Dakota

Yes!

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

AI is here and here to stay. It is fascinating. I have tried it to see what it’s like both in writing and image creation. It’s amazing technology.

Having said that, I would never try to pass off an image created by AI as a photograph. Any image that I create using AI will be designated at AI in the title so there is no question where it came from.

I personally think that UHH needs to embrace AI with very specific rules and regs about posting any AI image. Some ideas, Separate gallery, include AI in file name, include in description.

If we do not, other forums will become prevalent and more attractive to those who use AI. I think diversity is good for a forum as it expands our thought process and creativity. Just need to outline the rules for everyone to understand.
RL