Time for Photographers to be Scared? (Editorial): As we know Adobe has been integrating more and more AI features into Photoshop generative fill and has upgraded Firefly, its AI...

Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

As we know Adobe has been integrating more and more AI features into Photoshop generative fill and has upgraded Firefly, its AI generating program, to Version 3. In the latest release of Photoshop beta it is now possible to generate a multiple layer composite image using only verbal commands. Generative Fill and Generative Expand, both AI functions, allow us to add AI images to photographs easily and Generative Expand allows us to expand the borders of a photograph with the push of a button.

Topaz Labs Gigapixel AI, DeNoise AI, Sharpen AI and Photo AI use Artificial Intelligence to correct our photographic mistakes. These have become accepted Post Processing steps and are no longer mentioned in photo descriptions yet are truly AI modified images by definition.

Ugly Hedgehog has guidelines on how and where AI and AI/photograph hybrid images may be posted. I believe it is time to revisit these guidelines. With few exceptions most of us use AI to one degree or another in Post Processing. I believe it is time to allow AI generated images to be posted in any Forum as long they are identified as such.

terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains

Curmudgeon wrote:

As we know Adobe has been integrating more and mor... (show quote)

Do you see any difference between an image generated entirely by AI and one that uses AI to remove and replace defects or unwanted distractions from an original photograph?

cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX

Curmudgeon wrote:

As we know Adobe has been integrating more and mor... (show quote)

I hate to beat an old drum, but photographs have been artificial intelligence (still makes me chuckle) generated since the first digital camera. The technology (just like all technology) is simply better now.

terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains

cahale wrote:

I hate to beat an old drum, but photographs have been artificial intelligence (still makes me chuckle) generated since the first digital camera. The technology (just like all technology) is simply better now.

This kind of stuff is what makes me chuckle.

Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

terryMc wrote:

Do you see any difference between an image generated entirely by AI and one that uses AI to remove and replace defects or unwanted distractions from an original photograph?

No except that images entirely generated by AI are easier to detect at the present time.

Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

cahale wrote:

I hate to beat an old drum, but photographs have been artificial intelligence (still makes me chuckle) generated since the first digital camera. The technology (just like all technology) is simply better now.

Not correct. Digital photographs are still images created on a light sensitive substrate, sensor instead of film. A difference in kind but not substance

terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains

Curmudgeon wrote:

No except that images entirely generated by AI are easier to detect at the present time.

So you see these as equally AI generated even though one had only a rope leading the horse removed and the other is created by a computer from a typed two-sentence prompt?

Are they both to be considered photographs now? Or does the one originally from a camera lose its photograph status after one alteration?

Doesn't posting the AI image in a photographic topic imply it is, or should be, considered a photograph, even if it has a disclaimer?

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DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

Curmudgeon wrote:

As we know Adobe has been integrating more and mor... (show quote)

My projection: 14.3 pages

terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains

DirtFarmer wrote:

My projection: 14.3 pages

Maybe, if there's enough interest...

delder Loc: Maryland

IMHO, if we use the word image for highly processed "Photographs" we can help clarify this discussion.

srt101fan

Curmudgeon wrote:

Ugly Hedgehog has guidelines on how and where AI and AI/photograph hybrid images may be posted. I believe it is time to revisit these guidelines. With few exceptions most of us use AI to one degree or another in Post Processing. I believe it is time to allow AI generated images to be posted in any Forum as long they are identified as such.

I agree with you that the lines are getting blurred. But where do you stop? If you would allow a totally AI created image to be posted in any of the UHH sections, why not paintings?

Rongnongno Loc: FL

srt101fan wrote:

I agree with you that the lines are getting blurred. But where do you stop? If you would allow a totally AI created image to be posted in any of the UHH sections, why not paintings?

Yes, that is why there is an AI exclusive section.
For mixed photograph and AI blended there is also a section, two even.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

DirtFarmer wrote:

My projection: 14.3 pages

Ah! I bet on five, at most.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Rongnongno wrote:

Ah! I bet on five, at most.

Pretty soon we may have UHH members and posters who don't even use or own a camera - they will just do AI.

Boris77

terryMc wrote:

So you see these as equally AI generated even though one had only a rope leading the horse removed and the other is created by a computer from a typed two-sentence prompt?

Are they both to be considered photographs now? Or does the one originally from a camera lose its photograph status after one alteration?

Doesn't posting the AI image in a photographic topic imply it is, or should be, considered a photograph, even if it has a disclaimer?

Mother would buy 10 copies of a fake that good! It's a commercial success, so who cares if it is a photograph!
Boris