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Apr 24, 2024 11:12:05   #
Triple G
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Of course it matters which court. Are they State charges or Federal?

Truth is this is just another Kangaroo Court against President Trump from a lying corrupt Left Wing in office.

Dennis


It really isn't. It's accountability. MAGA has used just about every ploy in the book to keep trump's actions out of the light of day. Truth is being told under penalty of perjury. Appeals are already being filed. Truth and our venerable justice system will prevail. Biden has no ties to this investigation nor trial. That's a very big contrast to trump's political crusades of politicized Clinton investigations and "lock her up" guilty before trial decision chants. MAGA knows all about kangaroo courts; trump's cases are just not included in that description. So far, the excuses based on

1) free speech
2) due process
3) political hit job
4) jurisdiction

have all been nullified.

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Apr 24, 2024 11:13:26   #
Triple G
 
FrumCA wrote:
Yes, except for the last part. Everyone who votes blue (at least most of you here on the UHH) is/are quick to convict before all the evidence is presented and the jury renders its verdict. Your TDS has exposed you.


But, the "lock her up" chants of MAGA should be overlooked? I've not once said that about Trump.

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Apr 24, 2024 11:15:19   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Triple G wrote:
Your thinking that courtroom eyewitness reports are conspiracies confirms the big rock.


Courtroom witness? lol it was a journalist. No journalist should be trusted without verification. Of course you’ll believe claims without evidence when it’s about Trump.

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Apr 24, 2024 11:27:35   #
Triple G
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Courtroom witness? lol it was a journalist. No journalist should be trusted without verification. Of course you’ll believe claims without evidence when it’s about Trump.


I'll take the word from about 30 journalists who interviewed non journalists and reported in left, right and middle media over your "show me" antics. I suppose you wouldn't believe the Trump flatulence claim either unless he farted in your face. That's how ridiculous you are. But, I'd like to see you get your undeniable proof.

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Apr 24, 2024 11:37:19   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Triple G wrote:
I'll take the word from about 30 journalists who interviewed non journalists and reported in left, right and middle media over your "show me" antics. I suppose you wouldn't believe the Trump flatulence claim either unless he farted in your face. That's how ridiculous you are. But, I'd like to see you get your undeniable proof.


lol BS lies

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Apr 24, 2024 11:40:14   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Anyone that applies right or left logic when discussing trump is a Complete fool. Trump is for trump and nothing or anybody else.

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Apr 24, 2024 11:41:41   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
Anyone that applies right or left logic when discussing trump is a Complete fool. Trump is for trump and nothing or anybody else.


lol BS, if Trump was all about himself then why is he about the only president that came out poor then he went in?

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Apr 24, 2024 11:54:15   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
Triple G wrote:
For grins - because you have enough shits


It's not about campaign funds. It's

1) financial fraud - booking monkey business as business expenses in NY

2) conspiracy to commit financial fraud - NY

3) conspiracy to manipulate media to subvert fair and honest election - is the motive for the crimes committed in NY and is itself a crime.

4) it doesn't matter which court; just whether case is legit

5) SDNY has enough to do with trumps other case

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/31/nyregion/justice-dept-trump-indictment-charges.html
For grins - because you have enough shits br br ... (show quote)


What do you mean it doesn’t matter what court? A court must have jurisdiction, of course it matters. Conspiracy to manipulate the media to subvert a fair and honest election is called campaigning. Such manipulation is a feature of almost every campaign. Remember when Harry Reid famously saying he had no regrets of falsely reporting that Romney hadn’t paid taxes for 10 years (because it worked shaping the perception of Romney). Anytime two or more people involved in a campaign in any manner who plan in any way to “manipulate” the electorate could be accused of conspiracy by your definition.

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Apr 24, 2024 11:55:56   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
DennyT wrote:
Anyone that applies right or left logic when discussing trump is a Complete fool. Trump is for trump and nothing or anybody else.


You should have left it with anyone who tries to apply logic to the right or left is a fool!

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Apr 24, 2024 12:05:58   #
Triple G
 
Effate wrote:
What do you mean it doesn’t matter what court? A court must have jurisdiction, of course it matters. Conspiracy to manipulate the media to subvert a fair and honest election is called campaigning. Such manipulation is a feature of almost every campaign. Remember when Harry Reid famously saying he had no regrets of falsely reporting that Romney hadn’t paid taxes for 10 years (because it worked shaping the perception of Romney). Anytime two or more people involved in a campaign in any manner who plan in any way to “manipulate” the electorate could be accused of conspiracy by your definition.
What do you mean it doesn’t matter what court? A ... (show quote)


That's a blanket statement that doesn't cover illegal acts. Yes, jurisdiction matters and we'll see if appeals court has a contrary view to the current case. My comment on which court doesn't matter if the crimes are applicable to their case. There are state components to the charges. My money is on the probability that the case would not have been brought (just as DOJ) if they didn't believe that they could reach the high bar of proof to meet beyond a reasonable doubt. Yes, appeals court will decide. I'll deal with what is happening now without speculation of what could be.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/spoiler-alert-theres-nothing-wrong-with-trying-to-influence-an-election-trumps-defense-mocks-the-state-during-hush-money-case-openings-insists-trial-should-not-be-happening/?utm_source=lac_smartnews_redirect

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Apr 24, 2024 12:06:54   #
Triple G
 
Racmanaz wrote:
lol BS lies


What? You still wouldn't believe it if he farted in your face? You are the ultimate denier! Bravo.

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Apr 24, 2024 12:08:07   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
mikee wrote:
Is it me, or does everyone who votes red thinks this trial is politics and everyone who votes blue knows better??


its all about the timing...dirty joes fingerprints all over this BS

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Apr 24, 2024 12:10:13   #
Triple G
 
wilpharm wrote:
its all about the timing...dirty joes fingerprints all over this BS


Timing? Merit is the real issue and so far, that is pretty solid.

Must be invisible fingerprints.

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Apr 24, 2024 12:17:00   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
Triple G wrote:
It really isn't. It's accountability. MAGA has used just about every ploy in the book to keep trump's actions out of the light of day. Truth is being told under penalty of perjury. Appeals are already being filed. Truth and our venerable justice system will prevail. Biden has no ties to this investigation nor trial. That's a very big contrast to trump's political crusades of politicized Clinton investigations and "lock her up" guilty before trial decision chants. MAGA knows all about kangaroo courts; trump's cases are just not included in that description. So far, the excuses based on

1) free speech
2) due process
3) political hit job
4) jurisdiction

have all been nullified.
It really isn't. It's accountability. MAGA has u... (show quote)


You make a claim that Biden (I assume you would include his staff as they represent him) has no ties to this investigation, a claim you can’t possibly prove but don’t you find it a bit curious that DAs and special prosecutors in the various cases have visited the White House. I wonder if they ever had meetings there for other cases in their careers as prosecutors? Additionally, as Trump has asserted rightfully or wrongly, Bragg coaxed Colangelo from Department of Justice to sit as lead in court prosecutor.

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Apr 24, 2024 12:27:56   #
Triple G
 
Effate wrote:
You make a claim that Biden (I assume you would include his staff as they represent him) has no ties to this investigation, a claim you can’t possibly prove but don’t you find it a bit curious that DAs and special prosecutors in the various cases have visited the White House. I wonder if they ever had meetings there for other cases in their careers as prosecutors? Additionally, as Trump has asserted rightfully or wrongly, Bragg coaxed Colangelo from Department of Justice to sit as lead in court prosecutor.
You make a claim that Biden (I assume you would in... (show quote)


I have no evidence that Biden (nor his staff) have interfered in any way in this case. I've read of Jack Smith's meeting with staffers and with the debacle of the Comey surprise announcement in 2016, I believe it's wise to keep all parties who are in the line of blowback to know what is happening. I've not seen any reporting of nefarious motivations on Biden's team. He certainly is not using it in campaigning as Trump has done in campaign against Clinton. I'll read whatever you have.

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