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Apr 22, 2024 09:46:58   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And with a seemingly tyrannical government such as your idiotic moronic POS Biden proposes along with the same caliber of Left Wing anti American supporters such as yourself it would seem Conservatives see the 2nd Amendment, which you are trying to dispose of, very much in need.

An oft repeated statement you on the Left disregard, The Founding Fathers did not enact the 2nd Amendment to have for use on a farm, as a tool when needed, to enjoy target practice and to hunt for food. The NEED for the 2nd Amendment, the Guarantee of We the People to Keep and Bear Arms is based upon the NEED to fight a tyrannical government. Your lying and corrupt side heading America toward Socialism points out that NEED quite accurately.

Dennis
And with a seemingly tyrannical government such as... (show quote)


The queen of the soapbox crew prattles on with his profiling. Maroon!

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Apr 22, 2024 11:16:14   #
Triple G
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Then why all the nonsensical bullshit about taking away rifles such as the AR and AK platform types? Were you lying then or are you lying now? Which is it?

Dennis


Military weapons are different than guns as tools. Do you need an AK to get rid of a den of foxes getting your farm animals, or to put down a sick horse, or shoot something for dinner purposes, or to defend yourself from a human predator? I believe and support the 2nd amendment in its review by Scalia.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-a-divided-supreme-court-rules-on-the-second-amendment

https://www.statesman.com/story/opinion/columns/your-voice/2019/06/20/opinion-right-to-gun-is-not-absolute/4869957007/


“Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited,” Scalia wrote as he laid out certain exceptions. History demonstrates, Scalia said, “the right was not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”

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Apr 22, 2024 11:41:34   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Triple G wrote:
Military weapons are different than guns as tools. Do you need an AK to get rid of a den of foxes getting your farm animals, or to put down a sick horse, or shoot something for dinner purposes, or to defend yourself from a human predator? I believe and support the 2nd amendment in its review by Scalia.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-a-divided-supreme-court-rules-on-the-second-amendment

https://www.statesman.com/story/opinion/columns/your-voice/2019/06/20/opinion-right-to-gun-is-not-absolute/4869957007/


“Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited,” Scalia wrote as he laid out certain exceptions. History demonstrates, Scalia said, “the right was not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”
Military weapons are different than guns as tools.... (show quote)


How very typical of you to post the very same nonsense I just talked about.

NO I do not need an AK, "to get rid of a den of foxes getting your farm animals, or to put down a sick horse, or shoot something for dinner purposes, or to defend yourself from a human predator." But AGAIN, the 2nd Amendment was not written by our Founding Fathers to do any of these things was it? Apparently you are not capable of simply paying attention are you?

Semi Auto rifles and pistols are not necessarily military weapons at all as evidenced by the FACT semi auto firearms have been in widespread use in America as Sporting firearms for well over 100 years now. Rifles are still manufactured by a number of sporting firearms companies to be used for the same purposes you mentioned and in far more powerful rifles than the AK and AR platforms you on the Left whine and bitch about. Take a good look at the Winchester Model 100, the Remington Model 740/7400, the Browning semi automatic rifle in calibers up to 338 Winchester Magnum. Every one of these rifles even from numerous other manufacturers as well are in far more powerful calibers than are the AK and AR rifles you complain about.

Your problem on the Left is your ongoing ignorance about firearms in general. That ignorance is right from the top down as your President, POS Biden is on record as saying, adding a pistol brace onto a firearm makes the gun more powerful and fires a bigger bullet. Of course anyone who is capable of breathing should know that is nothing but ignorance and bullshit combined. Yet many of you on the Left not only pass that ignorance along to others but actually believe it is true.

From Left Wing Congresswoman, Sheila Jackson Lee, "I've held an AR-15 in my hand, I wish I hadn't, it is as heavy as 10 boxes that you might be moving and the bullet that is utilized, a 50 caliber, these kinds of bullets need to be licensed and to not need to be on the street."

This is the type of complete nonsense you on the Left believe. Of course the actual term is more along the lines of complete lies and bullshit from the always lying and/or idiotic Congresswoman Lee. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is a lie in every respect.

There are some firearms that are regulated and only by obtaining a special permit can firearms like full auto machine guns be possessed these days. But so can 20mm aircraft cannons with the appropriate permit. Browning and other 50 caliber machine guns can be possessed as well as various machine pistols. But apparently you don't know these are full automatic firearms that did not used to be licensed. They were no problem in America except for isolated instances. The general public owned them and from those people no problems were known.

Apparently you are unaware that semi auto firearms were well known in America when the Revolutionary War was in full swing. For you to tell us military firearms are not needed is just another lie. The single shot British Brown Bess was a military weapon. So was every other firearm in American civilian use since that time, up to and including firearms from the Civil War up until the present. Sportsmen and women use military styled firearms because they have been proven to work under adverse conditions. Do not forget the Founding Fathers knew all about semi auto firearms back in the 1700's so their thoughts on the 2nd Amendment would have considered semi auto firearms then.

Dennis

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Apr 22, 2024 11:57:40   #
lbrande
 
dennis2146 wrote:
How very typical of you to post the very same nonsense I just talked about.

NO I do not need an AK, "to get rid of a den of foxes getting your farm animals, or to put down a sick horse, or shoot something for dinner purposes, or to defend yourself from a human predator." But AGAIN, the 2nd Amendment was not written by our Founding Fathers to do any of these things was it? Apparently you are not capable of simply paying attention are you?

Semi Auto rifles and pistols are not necessarily military weapons at all as evidenced by the FACT semi auto firearms have been in widespread use in America as Sporting firearms for well over 100 years now. Rifles are still manufactured by a number of sporting firearms companies to be used for the same purposes you mentioned and in far more powerful rifles than the AK and AR platforms you on the Left whine and bitch about. Take a good look at the Winchester Model 100, the Remington Model 740/7400, the Browning semi automatic rifle in calibers up to 338 Winchester Magnum. Every one of these rifles even from numerous other manufacturers as well are in far more powerful calibers than are the AK and AR rifles you complain about.

Your problem on the Left is your ongoing ignorance about firearms in general. That ignorance is right from the top down as your President, POS Biden is on record as saying, adding a pistol brace onto a firearm makes the gun more powerful and fires a bigger bullet. Of course anyone who is capable of breathing should know that is nothing but ignorance and bullshit combined. Yet many of you on the Left not only pass that ignorance along to others but actually believe it is true.

From Left Wing Congresswoman, Sheila Jackson Lee, "I've held an AR-15 in my hand, I wish I hadn't, it is as heavy as 10 boxes that you might be moving and the bullet that is utilized, a 50 caliber, these kinds of bullets need to be licensed and to not need to be on the street."

This is the type of complete nonsense you on the Left believe. Of course the actual term is more along the lines of complete lies and bullshit from the always lying and/or idiotic Congresswoman Lee. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is a lie in every respect.

There are some firearms that are regulated and only by obtaining a special permit can firearms like full auto machine guns be possessed these days. But so can 20mm aircraft cannons with the appropriate permit. Browning and other 50 caliber machine guns can be possessed as well as various machine pistols. But apparently you don't know these are full automatic firearms that did not used to be licensed. They were no problem in America except for isolated instances. The general public owned them and from those people no problems were known.

Apparently you are unaware that semi auto firearms were well known in America when the Revolutionary War was in full swing. For you to tell us military firearms are not needed is just another lie. The single shot British Brown Bess was a military weapon. So was every other firearm in American civilian use since that time, up to and including firearms from the Civil War up until the present. Sportsmen and women use military styled firearms because they have been proven to work under adverse conditions. Do not forget the Founding Fathers knew all about semi auto firearms back in the 1700's so their thoughts on the 2nd Amendment would have considered semi auto firearms then.

Dennis
How very typical of you to post the very same nons... (show quote)



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Apr 22, 2024 12:59:52   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:
How very typical of you to post the very same nonsense I just talked about.

NO I do not need an AK, "to get rid of a den of foxes getting your farm animals, or to put down a sick horse, or shoot something for dinner purposes, or to defend yourself from a human predator." But AGAIN, the 2nd Amendment was not written by our Founding Fathers to do any of these things was it? Apparently you are not capable of simply paying attention are you?

Semi Auto rifles and pistols are not necessarily military weapons at all as evidenced by the FACT semi auto firearms have been in widespread use in America as Sporting firearms for well over 100 years now. Rifles are still manufactured by a number of sporting firearms companies to be used for the same purposes you mentioned and in far more powerful rifles than the AK and AR platforms you on the Left whine and bitch about. Take a good look at the Winchester Model 100, the Remington Model 740/7400, the Browning semi automatic rifle in calibers up to 338 Winchester Magnum. Every one of these rifles even from numerous other manufacturers as well are in far more powerful calibers than are the AK and AR rifles you complain about.

Your problem on the Left is your ongoing ignorance about firearms in general. That ignorance is right from the top down as your President, POS Biden is on record as saying, adding a pistol brace onto a firearm makes the gun more powerful and fires a bigger bullet. Of course anyone who is capable of breathing should know that is nothing but ignorance and bullshit combined. Yet many of you on the Left not only pass that ignorance along to others but actually believe it is true.

From Left Wing Congresswoman, Sheila Jackson Lee, "I've held an AR-15 in my hand, I wish I hadn't, it is as heavy as 10 boxes that you might be moving and the bullet that is utilized, a 50 caliber, these kinds of bullets need to be licensed and to not need to be on the street."

This is the type of complete nonsense you on the Left believe. Of course the actual term is more along the lines of complete lies and bullshit from the always lying and/or idiotic Congresswoman Lee. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is a lie in every respect.

There are some firearms that are regulated and only by obtaining a special permit can firearms like full auto machine guns be possessed these days. But so can 20mm aircraft cannons with the appropriate permit. Browning and other 50 caliber machine guns can be possessed as well as various machine pistols. But apparently you don't know these are full automatic firearms that did not used to be licensed. They were no problem in America except for isolated instances. The general public owned them and from those people no problems were known.

Apparently you are unaware that semi auto firearms were well known in America when the Revolutionary War was in full swing. For you to tell us military firearms are not needed is just another lie. The single shot British Brown Bess was a military weapon. So was every other firearm in American civilian use since that time, up to and including firearms from the Civil War up until the present. Sportsmen and women use military styled firearms because they have been proven to work under adverse conditions. Do not forget the Founding Fathers knew all about semi auto firearms back in the 1700's so their thoughts on the 2nd Amendment would have considered semi auto firearms then.

Dennis
How very typical of you to post the very same nons... (show quote)


and how typical of 3Girls to dictate what other people "need". typical socialist

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Apr 22, 2024 13:01:53   #
Triple G
 
dennis2146 wrote:
How very typical of you to post the very same nonsense I just talked about.

NO I do not need an AK, "to get rid of a den of foxes getting your farm animals, or to put down a sick horse, or shoot something for dinner purposes, or to defend yourself from a human predator." But AGAIN, the 2nd Amendment was not written by our Founding Fathers to do any of these things was it? Apparently you are not capable of simply paying attention are you?

Semi Auto rifles and pistols are not necessarily military weapons at all as evidenced by the FACT semi auto firearms have been in widespread use in America as Sporting firearms for well over 100 years now. Rifles are still manufactured by a number of sporting firearms companies to be used for the same purposes you mentioned and in far more powerful rifles than the AK and AR platforms you on the Left whine and bitch about. Take a good look at the Winchester Model 100, the Remington Model 740/7400, the Browning semi automatic rifle in calibers up to 338 Winchester Magnum. Every one of these rifles even from numerous other manufacturers as well are in far more powerful calibers than are the AK and AR rifles you complain about.

Your problem on the Left is your ongoing ignorance about firearms in general. That ignorance is right from the top down as your President, POS Biden is on record as saying, adding a pistol brace onto a firearm makes the gun more powerful and fires a bigger bullet. Of course anyone who is capable of breathing should know that is nothing but ignorance and bullshit combined. Yet many of you on the Left not only pass that ignorance along to others but actually believe it is true.

From Left Wing Congresswoman, Sheila Jackson Lee, "I've held an AR-15 in my hand, I wish I hadn't, it is as heavy as 10 boxes that you might be moving and the bullet that is utilized, a 50 caliber, these kinds of bullets need to be licensed and to not need to be on the street."

This is the type of complete nonsense you on the Left believe. Of course the actual term is more along the lines of complete lies and bullshit from the always lying and/or idiotic Congresswoman Lee. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is a lie in every respect.

There are some firearms that are regulated and only by obtaining a special permit can firearms like full auto machine guns be possessed these days. But so can 20mm aircraft cannons with the appropriate permit. Browning and other 50 caliber machine guns can be possessed as well as various machine pistols. But apparently you don't know these are full automatic firearms that did not used to be licensed. They were no problem in America except for isolated instances. The general public owned them and from those people no problems were known.

Apparently you are unaware that semi auto firearms were well known in America when the Revolutionary War was in full swing. For you to tell us military firearms are not needed is just another lie. The single shot British Brown Bess was a military weapon. So was every other firearm in American civilian use since that time, up to and including firearms from the Civil War up until the present. Sportsmen and women use military styled firearms because they have been proven to work under adverse conditions. Do not forget the Founding Fathers knew all about semi auto firearms back in the 1700's so their thoughts on the 2nd Amendment would have considered semi auto firearms then.

Dennis
How very typical of you to post the very same nons... (show quote)


I'll stick with Scalia as to what rights the 2nd amendment protects. It's common sense.

Go argue with someone else. I have the SCOTUS decisions to support my opinion and rational thought. You have knee-jerk emotional responses. Agree or disagree all you like, it doesn't change that I am correct in my position on gun rights.

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Apr 22, 2024 13:07:07   #
Triple G
 
wilpharm wrote:
and how typical of 3Girls to dictate what other people "need". typical socialist


Hey...full of smoke! Where did I dictate or decide what any one needs. I just asked the questions and provided Scalia's answer to them. What a bunch of hooey you have for brains.

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Apr 22, 2024 13:40:42   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Triple G wrote:
I'll stick with Scalia as to what rights the 2nd amendment protects. It's common sense.

Go argue with someone else. I have the SCOTUS decisions to support my opinion and rational thought. You have knee-jerk emotional responses. Agree or disagree all you like, it doesn't change that I am correct in my position on gun rights.


You can have whoever you like and stick with them. I am good with that. I am taking no Rights from you. It is you on the Left who are trying to take Rights from the rest of us.

As for your comment of my knee jerk comments you so easily forget the gun rights problem for you was settled in 1789. That isn’t knee jerk on my part but total ignorance on your side.

As for SCOTUS you seem to be ignoring the FACTS. That highest court in the land has already ruled against laws trying to deprive Americans of semi auto rifles; had already agreed the 2nd Amendment gives We the People the individual right to keep and bear arms rather than a right only for militia members. Which is it, you don’t want to abide by the SCOTUS decisions or are you ignorant of those decisions? No mattet. SCOTUS supports the right of individuals to keep and bear arms.

Now if this doesn’t suit you then don’t keep and bear arms. But you have no right to take mine or keep me from buying more.

Try your best to be a big girl now and get over yourself.

Dennis

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Apr 22, 2024 14:16:19   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Triple G wrote:
Not a single non-conservative I know wants to take away any mentally stable person's guns which were obtained legally.


Really? Numerous politicians and minions of the Biden administration and Biden himself (definitely non-conservative!) are currently pushing laws and restrictions that would BAN entire classes of guns and make possession an illegal and criminal act.
As well as promoting TAKING BY FORCE guns from law-abiding, mentally stable citizens of the country.

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Apr 22, 2024 16:41:11   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Wyantry wrote:
Really? Numerous politicians and minions of the Biden administration and Biden himself (definitely non-conservative!) are currently pushing laws and restrictions that would BAN entire classes of guns and make possession an illegal and criminal act.
As well as promoting TAKING BY FORCE guns from law-abiding, mentally stable citizens of the country.



So much common sense and all wasted on the Left. What a shame.

Dennis

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Apr 22, 2024 18:28:10   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Triple G wrote:
Hey...full of smoke! Where did I dictate or decide what any one needs. I just asked the questions and provided Scalia's answer to them. What a bunch of hooey you have for brains.


just read your post,dork

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Apr 22, 2024 18:29:08   #
Triple G
 
wilpharm wrote:
just read your post,dork


Your reading ability is about as good as your reasoning ability, which is maybe 3rd grade level.

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Apr 22, 2024 18:48:25   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Triple G wrote:
Hey...full of smoke! Where did I dictate or decide what any one needs. I just asked the questions and provided Scalia's answer to them. What a bunch of hooey you have for brains.


You just made a post about Military weapons not needed!!! what a dunce and a liar tambien!!! Its not YOUR decision to make, dorkbrain!!

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Apr 22, 2024 18:52:21   #
Triple G
 
wilpharm wrote:
You just made a post about Military weapons not needed!!! what a dunce and a liar tambien!!! Its not YOUR decision to make, dorkbrain!!


You really are a loser - the written word in the form of questions is beyond your comprehension. Your taunting name calling is about 3rd grade level or lower also. Who ever claimed it to me my decision --- I left that up to Scalia and I really support his answer. Don't you? Or, do you think you are not bound by SCOTUS decisions? Go play some pinochle to exercise your lazy brain.

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Apr 22, 2024 18:53:54   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Triple G wrote:
You really are a loser - the written word in the form of questions is beyond your comprehension. Your taunting name calling is about 3rd grade level or lower also. Who ever claimed it to me my decision --- I left that up to Scalia and I really support his answer. Don't you? Or, do you think you are not bound by SCOTUS decisions?


you really need to stick to looking at travel brochures & playing pinochle with your nursing home pals...hey its about applesauce time, now you are denying the military weapon post,, there are several drugs for confusion but you are sinking too far...

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