jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

Farmers and ranchers--deer can easily eat corn and soybean crops, as well as do raccoons, groundhogs, etc. It is a battle. And coyotes kill and eat farmers' animals--baby calves, cats, small dogs, chickens, etc. No one seems to care about coyotes until they kill a cat or dog in town, and then all hell breaks looks on the news because Fluffy got eaten.

Flickwet Loc: NEOhio

Not a lot of photo info in this thread is there? I’m from Ohio, we don’t miss snowflakes

srt101fan

You gotta be kidding!

He said "a country where children have the Constitutional Right to take guns to school to kill their teacher and other pupils!

First it's a falsehood, a lie. As far as Constitutional rights are concerned, the authors had a defined constituency in mind and I'm pretty sure it didn't include children. And the OP thinks we have a Constitutional right to kill people!? How absurd....

Aside from spreading falsehoods, the OP. as a foreigner, shows very poor taste in attacking the U. S. on this forum no matter how dissatisfied he is with some of the membership.

Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US

Please point this out in the Constitution!

"Suppose its only to be expected though in a country where children have the Constitutional Right to take guns to school to kill their teacher and other pupils!"

Don't let the door...well...you know!

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

Sure, but we aren't allowed to shoot the deer and the other animals are easier to trap than shoot.

Killing coyotes makes the problem worse.

"Why would predation increase after predators are killed? When pack animals such as coyotes, dingoes and wolves are killed, the social structure of their packs breaks down. Female coyotes become more likely to breed and their pups are more likely to survive, so their numbers may actually increase. Packs generally protect territories, so breaking up a pack allows new animals to come in, raising the population. In addition, some new arrivals may opportunistically prey on livestock, which can increase predation rates."

Non-lethal methods of coyote control have proven to be more effective than lethal methods.

"Few Americans probably know that their tax dollars paid to kill 76,859 coyotes in 2016. The responsible agency was Wildlife Services (WS), part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Its mission is to 'resolve wildlife conflicts to allow people and wildlife to coexist.'"

"It is understandable for struggling ranchers to blame coyotes for economic losses, since kills leave tangible signs and killing predators seems like a logical solution. However, a widely cited 2006 study called coyotes scapegoats for factors that were more directly related to the decline of sheep ranching in the United States."

"The author, Dr. Kim Murray Berger, who was then a research biologist with the Wildlife Conservation Society, built and tested a series of statistical models to explain the declining number of sheep being bred in the United States. She found that variables including the price of hay, wage rates and the price of lamb explained most of the decline, and that the amount of money spent on predator control had little effect. Other research indicates that even if predation is one factor in ranchers’ economic losses, lethal control is not the best way to reduce it."

https://theconversation.com/why-killing-coyotes-doesnt-make-livestock-safer-75684

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

He is referring, no doubt, to the absolutist position many take on the Second Amendment.

Perhaps you could point out where in the Constitution it says that firearm ownership should not be regulated.

fantom Loc: Colorado

Who is saying that we don't need ANY regulations of firearms? Names, addresses, DOBs and last four digits of SSNs please.

Your arguments are grossly flawed. You might consider taking a course in basic dialectics to improve your illogical conclusions or beliefs. You cannot mix universal, singular nor collective statements into the same syllogism. This is a common failing of proponents of total gun abolishment. You can't eat an elephant in one bite but have to nibble away at it.

BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA

Amen to that.

No one likes outsiders trashing their group. It's bad form from the get go and is particularly bad when trashing a bunch of nice old guys in a photo forum, and an entire country full of admirable, amiable, charming, considerate, courteous, delightful, helpful, gentle, gracious, fine and dandy folks like us! Well, most of us anyhow...

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

I am not a "proponent of total gun abolishment." It is "abolition," not "abolishment," by the way, so long as we are correcting other people's usage. You are barking up the wrong tree there.

I don't think there are many calling for the abolition of gun ownership. There are many who make the slippery slope argument, saying that any regulations will inevitably lead to gun confiscation and that those advocating or regulations are secretly promoting a gun confiscation agenda.

"Who is taking a absolutist position on the Second Amendment?" you ask. Well, there is the National Association for Gun Rights, for example.

"Accepting NO COMPROMISE on the issue of gun control, NAGR works tirelessly to hold politicians accountable for their anti-gun views, and has made great strides in protecting and preserving the Second Amendment."

https://www.nationalgunrights.org/about-us/key-issues/

fantom Loc: Colorado

Great description but you left out nutty.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Statistics to prove that?

For some reason I don't believe your statement.

And "safe" always depends on the <sub> area of the urban area. Some are worse than others.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

I support the 2nd amendment, but not the NRA.

fantom Loc: Colorado

FYI, according to my dictionary the definitions of abolishment and absolution are the same. After reading your elitist comment on the subject I consulted the dictionary to confirm my belief.

After I did that I decided to not read anymore of your self-serving proclamations and do not plan to read anymore in future posts. My laugh quotient for the day has been exceeded.

Horseart Loc: Alabama

Big daddy sick? We need to check his temperature! He also left out wacky, funny, goofy and crazy.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

When I was in high school (Avonworth HS class of 1966) There was a Rod and Gun club. It wasn’t unusual that a student club member to bring a hunting rifle to a club meeting. Also, nobody got upset if the hunters didn’t show up on the first day of hunting season.