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Apr 16, 2024 16:04:41   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
Old Coot wrote:
No one ever seems to discuss or mention the "Pill" If taken it prevents pregnancy thus no pregnancy and no need for abortion. It's called planning.


Ah...
Is that the next conservative target? The birth control pill, then condoms?

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Apr 16, 2024 17:24:20   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Ah...
Is that the next conservative target? The birth control pill, then condoms?


Then spewing seed on a rock!

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Apr 16, 2024 17:30:57   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Ah...
Is that the next conservative target? The birth control pill, then condoms?


Before that ... they're going to explore the Euro 16 week norm AND the generous child rearing subsidies of freeish day care, freeish family healthcare and generous maternity leave for both parents. Oh wait ... that's the Commie model. It's better to shackle a young family to a time poor existence on a debt treadmill ... and give them all the guns they can handle and whine if they get paid a fair wage in the vast service economy.

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Apr 16, 2024 18:11:43   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Old Coot wrote:
No one ever seems to discuss or mention the "Pill" If taken it prevents pregnancy thus no pregnancy and no need for abortion. It's called planning.

Not all women can take the pill due to health issues, the biggest one being the potential for blood clots caused by the pill.

A family history of blood clots in either birth parent will often take that option off of the table as a method of birth control.

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Apr 17, 2024 07:46:29   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Not all people can tolerate sugar either... So they ABSTAIN ! Gee, What a novel thought. 87 % of ALL unmarried females in the black communities become pregnant, unmarried mothers, and wards of the state and the cycle begins again. Just INCONVENIENT facts. The ANSWER to the issues is " Common Sense "... NOT allegiance to blue or red !

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Apr 17, 2024 08:27:37   #
Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US
 
Old Coot wrote:
No one ever seems to discuss or mention the "Pill" If taken it prevents pregnancy thus no pregnancy and no need for abortion. It's called planning.


Abstinence is planning too. Why should people have to take risky drugs to take the place of personal responsibility?

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Apr 17, 2024 08:47:12   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Is it their goal to end/severely restrict one of Women's HealthCare procedures... Abortion?

I just want some clarity on this topic, apparently some believe the GOP doesn't.

I thought it was clear that MAGAns/GOP/Republicans were all following same leader, Trump.


Truly sad that your mom suffered through her affliction...

Tell us why dims celebrate the intentional and voluntary sacrifice of unborn to your gods so vehemently? The passing of the bill late term abortions for any reason brought the entire house down in NY - a standing ovation... you know, exactly the reception one expects, like landing on the moon, or when a Medal of Honor recipient is introduced...

The attached is from THAT VERY EVENt AND ANOUNCEMENT... do you understand what it means?



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Apr 17, 2024 09:04:09   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Truth Seeker wrote:
Abstinence is planning too. Why should people have to take risky drugs to take the place of personal responsibility?

Are you advocating abstinence for all males?

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Apr 17, 2024 10:53:33   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
People that practice Abstinence or the Rhythm method are called... parents. Not a great plan.

btw, aren't there religions that believe masturbation is wrong? How long before that is illegal?

Headline in WSJ: "Man Convicted of KILLING Millions of Potential Babies!"

It could happen, right?

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Apr 17, 2024 11:50:02   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
People that practice Abstinence or the Rhythm method are called... parents. Not a great plan.

btw, aren't there religions that believe masturbation is wrong? How long before that is illegal?

Headline in WSJ: "Man Convicted of KILLING Millions of Potential Babies!"

It could happen, right?

Hummmm, that's like the scene near the beginning of Legally Blond, only it was abandonment instead of "KILLING".

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Apr 17, 2024 13:52:32   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
So in your infinite wisdom, you're going to create "fly-over" zones void of women!

Have you looked at the map showing all of the states where the GOP have already severely limited or outright banned abortions?

https://www.cnn.com/us/abortion-access-restrictions-bans-us-dg/index.html

https://states.guttmacher.org/policies/

Most of the deep south bible belt states. Talk about shoving the religious beliefs of a minority of the population down the throats of the majority.

It would serve every elect GOP member in those states to be voted out of office because of the wrath of the female voters in those abortion restrictions or totally banned abortion states.

A woman scorned isn't something that those GOP elected officials really want to encounter in the ballot box in their next election!

It's not going to end well for those GOP elected officials!
So in your infinite wisdom, you're going to create... (show quote)


WHAT basement do you live in Shutter ?... Open then shutters up. IT IS A STATE ISSUE.... WHAT minority are you talking about ? The one MSNBC tells you ? OR maybe you are a Whoopee guy ! Wake up and smell the roses...

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Apr 17, 2024 14:13:58   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Robertl594 wrote:
I will never understand why a bunch of men, and a few women, believe they have the right to determine and limit a woman’s right to make her own health choices? I also find it harder to fathom why some women choose to relinquish their own rights.

On a related tangent and what I believe is the vote pandering position of certain politicians and is partially driving this, we have an amendment in our constitution that states that church and state shall remain separate. We are in serious jeopardy of losing that important component of our right to enjoy whatever religion, or no religion we so choose. I believe that, and will fight for, everyone’s right to enjoy freely and in peace, the religion of their choice, however forcing any religion on anyone is completely and totally illegal and should not be tolerated.
I will never understand why a bunch of men, and a ... (show quote)


From one Bob to another, The issue is up to INDIVIDUAL STATES ! WHAT don't you get ? No one is forcing ANY religion on anyone. A Woman does NOT have a fundamental right to kill an unborn child.

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Apr 17, 2024 14:20:24   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
MrBob wrote:
WHAT basement do you live in Shutter ?... Open then shutters up. IT IS A STATE ISSUE.... WHAT minority are you talking about ? The one MSNBC tells you ? OR maybe you are a Whoopee guy ! Wake up and smell the roses...

The majority of the voting public, not politicians, do NOT want or support complete abortion bans.

The minority, the religious zealots, in the United States have decided that their religious beliefs for some unfathomable reason should outweigh the wishes of the voting public.

https://www.google.com/search?q=latest+polls+opposing+abortion+bans&oq=latest+polls+opposing+abortion+bans&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTIwNjk1ajBqN6gCFLACAQ&client=tablet-android-samsung-nf-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1

Pick your preferred source.

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