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Apr 14, 2024 14:55:36   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
kc48girl wrote:
Agreed as the end result of my editing is the pleasure in the creation. I have read your posts and learned alot.
Thanks so much. Please come back soon and share your work!

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Apr 14, 2024 14:56:12   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Thanks, glad to help!
Wasn't she talking to me??


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Apr 14, 2024 16:46:46   #
MJPerini
 
kc48girl wrote:
I have a D500, tamron 18-400, Have been taking pictures a long time, but am a complete amateur. I usually keep my setting on raw. While in charleston, I noticed it got switched to j peg/ raw. When viewing on the computer, The jpeg Pictures far, much more vivid. The sky is much more blue. I was going to delete the j. Peg pictures and move raw to adobe to play with. Can someone help me understand Why they look so different. Is it because j peg is making the corrections in the camera? Is sending the raw picks to adobe, A good way for me to learn. I plan to make a book for my mother to have memories. What If I get lucky and get an image of the angel oak tree that's good enough to convert to print at larger than 16 x20. I am way below the level of people on this forum but. I would appreciate a quick start of information. I was pretty successful with Previous photos and editing but it's been a long time.
I have a D500, tamron 18-400, Have been taking pic... (show quote)


This was a 'Fortuitous Accident', It is important to understand the difference between RAW & JPEG.
There is nothing wrong with your shooting JPEG, if you would rather not be tied to post processing every RAW file.
You can also shoot RAW + JPEG and use JPEG output most of the time and only go to RAW files when more processing seems necessary to you.
While it is true that most experienced Photographers shoot RAW files for the most flexibility and the most image data, Modern Cameras produce very good JPEG results. A casual photographer is probably better off shooting JPEGs
Your 'Accident' showed the difference clearly.
Now the 'full disclosure part' You will notice that JPEG files are much smaller than RAW files. Jopeg files use what is called "Lossy Compression" meaning that once the file is compressed in camera (according to the settings you make) the file is compressed and all data not used for that 'LOOK' is mostly discarded. As much as 80%.
That sounds worse than it is. If you are happy with the look, and not having to edit, then all is good.
If you want to revisit and re edit the file, you cannot re-create the data that was thrown away. So editing is more limited.
If this is a hobby, and you would rather not edit, JPEGs are great. JPEGs are even required in some professional circumstances like Spot News, Reportage and some Sports.
As long as you understand the tradeoff, do what is easiest for you.

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Apr 14, 2024 16:59:08   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
R.G. wrote:
NX Studio will show the adjustments that the jpeg got in camera - which will depend on the Picture Control settings in the camera. NX Studio gives the option of applying the exact same adjustments to the raw files, or if you want you can choose another Picture Control profile to apply. It's worth having a look at the adjustments that the jpeg files get. There's nothing magical about them. They're fairly basic. And the same adjustments are applied to all jpegs, but if you edit the raw file you can give each image tailor-made adjustments.
NX Studio will show the adjustments that the jpeg ... (show quote)



May be a little confusing to the OP? NX Studio will allow you to make some adjustments to JPGs (contrast, brightness, etc.), but raw will give you the ability to adjust considerably more.

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Apr 14, 2024 18:34:10   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Wasn't she talking to me??



NAAAHH....
....srt101fan, probably (pg 1)......no??

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Apr 14, 2024 21:29:53   #
bearontheair Loc: San Francisco, CA
 
For you old-timers…the vivid setting on a digital camera reminds me of Kodachrome 25; the natural setting reminds me of Ektachrome 64. Depending on what camera you have, your mileage may vary.

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Apr 14, 2024 21:50:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
bearontheair wrote:
For you old-timers…the vivid setting on a digital camera reminds me of Kodachrome 25; the natural setting reminds me of Ektachrome 64. Depending on what camera you have, your mileage may vary.

Yup, depends on the manufacturer, the way they set those selections.

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Apr 15, 2024 01:33:36   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
whatdat wrote:
May be a little confusing to the OP? NX Studio will allow you to make some adjustments to JPGs (contrast, brightness, etc.), but raw will give you the ability to adjust considerably more.


After I posted I realised the possible ambiguity so I posted THIS to clarify. It makes it clearer that if you import the raw file into NX Studio it will apply the Picture Control adjustments by default unless you cancel them. It's also possible to see the exact adjustments used and to readjust if wanted. That stands in contrast to the jpeg file which has the Picture Control adjustments baked in and it is then compressed so it's not possible to return to the raw file from the jpeg.

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Apr 15, 2024 09:25:36   #
ELNikkor
 
Most of my photos look just right when I shoot on jpeg "Standard", which is a little tweaked from jpeg "Neutral". I only shoot RAW when the situation looks like it might need more processing and possible marketing. Once I spent 1/2 hour processing a RAW image and it was saved as a jpeg that looked just like the SOOC jpeg. In-camera jpegs can save a lot of time.

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Apr 15, 2024 11:18:36   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I shoot both, Raw,and Jpeg. Memory cards are cheap and reusable so the majority of file size is in the RAW and the little the Jpeg adds is a nonfactor.
I like the raw option because as my skills grow I can always go back to them and process with my new skills I've learned.
It also makes sharing photos easier and no time is spent processing them

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Apr 15, 2024 12:09:54   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Picture Taker wrote:
That's because you need help to fix your pictures. Take rm better and use JPG


I knew there’d be at least one. It has nothing to do with “fixing pictures”. It’s about understanding how to look at a scene and plan your shot to get the best results. It’s about controlling the processing for your vision, not the engineers that created the processing algorithm for your in camera JPEG. Yesterday I was shooting a Peregrine falcon sitting on a ledge. The sun was to my right and just enough was hitting the white breast of the falcon to completely blow out the highlights while the rest of the bird and scene was in shadow. There is no way to take a decent JPEG of that scene. I knew that shooting raw I could adjust the exposure down by two stops to avoid blown highlights and still have enough latitude to pull the detail out of the shadows.

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Apr 15, 2024 12:11:08   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
srt101fan wrote:
You've already gotten some good, helpful answers to your question. Now watch out for the opinionated crowd with their cheerleading chants and irrelevant posturing.


Just look two posts above yours. It already started.

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Apr 15, 2024 12:11:29   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When I shoot in RAW, I am a photographer.

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Apr 15, 2024 12:13:29   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
photoman43 wrote:
This is exactly what I was going to write in response to your post.

I will add: In your D500 (and any other Nikon camera) set Picture Controls for the look you want for the image captured by the camera and the Jpeg processed in the camera. If you do not know what Picture Controls are go to NikonUsa or your camera manual and read about them.

https://imaging.nikon.com/imaging/support/digitutor/d500/techniques/201601_12_02_sl.html


I use Nikon NX Studio to view my RAW images and cull them before any processing of RAW (NEF) files. NXStudio renders the imbedded Jpeg with the Picture Control settings. If you have an image where in camera color and white balance setting are important to preserve, make a Tiff of that image and then process the Tiff in your post processing softare.

For many RAW images captured correctly in camera, Nx Studio may be the only post processing program you need to use.

For some of my images, NX Studio is all that I use. For others I use DXO PL7 and the NIK Collection.
This is exactly what I was going to write in respo... (show quote)


Why would you make a TIFF? Just process from the raw.

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Apr 15, 2024 12:22:41   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
MJPerini wrote:
This was a 'Fortuitous Accident', It is important to understand the difference between RAW & JPEG.
There is nothing wrong with your shooting JPEG, if you would rather not be tied to post processing every RAW file.
You can also shoot RAW + JPEG and use JPEG output most of the time and only go to RAW files when more processing seems necessary to you.
While it is true that most experienced Photographers shoot RAW files for the most flexibility and the most image data, Modern Cameras produce very good JPEG results. A casual photographer is probably better off shooting JPEGs
Your 'Accident' showed the difference clearly.
Now the 'full disclosure part' You will notice that JPEG files are much smaller than RAW files. Jopeg files use what is called "Lossy Compression" meaning that once the file is compressed in camera (according to the settings you make) the file is compressed and all data not used for that 'LOOK' is mostly discarded. As much as 80%.
That sounds worse than it is. If you are happy with the look, and not having to edit, then all is good.
If you want to revisit and re edit the file, you cannot re-create the data that was thrown away. So editing is more limited.
If this is a hobby, and you would rather not edit, JPEGs are great. JPEGs are even required in some professional circumstances like Spot News, Reportage and some Sports.
As long as you understand the tradeoff, do what is easiest for you.
This was a 'Fortuitous Accident', It is important ... (show quote)


Actually with a 8 bit JPEG you’re throwing away over 98% of the data from a 14 bit raw file even before compression.

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