TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

That’s just silly. All boats that have windage (that would be any vessel floating except perhaps a floating board) are moved by the wind due to the force of the wind against the superstructure and cargo. Container vessels, which the Dali was, are the most affected by the wind because of the large flat vertical surfaces - no way to “design around” that fact. The only way to counter that is to drive the boat forward with propulsion, which the Dali didn’t have at the time of the accident.

You clearly know nothing about boats/ships or you’re intentionally being obtuse - either way, just stop.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

Beacuse when I saw it, it was before I went to sleep & I posted after work the day after with what I saw the night before.
I must disagree with you that none was based on reality. I spoke from past experience & with the information I had at the moment.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

I never said they are not affected by the wind. Read again my posts carefully. Your seeing only your own thoughts.
Besides, if the boat we are discussing was fully at the mercy of the breeze with no controls but only its forward momentum, the track it would create would be a curve, Force to a period of time will accumulate and the effect will compound. Not a sudden right turn then a straight line.
It pains me that our discussion is turning into a pissing contest , better we just wait for the results of the investigations.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

Yes they are opposites
Blown around means "move at the mercy of the wind".
Tacking is not moving at the mercy of the wind. It is harnessing the power of the wind to move to a desired direction especially the direction going against the wind.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

That which you highlight is not a rambling as is the rest of my posts. It is based on information I had when I commented them.

I'd only make derrogatory remarks when I recieve them first.
Even then, I try my best not to insult anyone and present reasons why i have a certain line of thought.
If I want to insult someone, I would not make inuendos. I'll say it directly.

As an example, when I ask, "would you still drive when you know you have no brakes?" That is neither derrogatory nor an inuendo. That is a clear question meant to clarify my point of view.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

If it feels like a pissing contest to you, it’s because you persist in making inane arguments and trying to defend your indefensible statements such as the above “a sudden right turn” (there was NO sudden right turn). I think I’ve wasted enough time on this.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

That doesn’t make it reality.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

But it’s the fact that the wind pushes things around that makes using it to tack possible.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

That diagram shows a slight change in direction, not a “sudden right turn”.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

And considering the width of the passage and the distance when the direction change took place that is why the ship hit the tower, a bit more of a turn, and it would have grounded in shallow water on the other side of the tower from the passage.

Mr. SONY Loc: LI, NY

A large container ship passing by the Verrazzano Bridge lost power.
No biggie!
It was being escorted by three tugs.
Why wasn't the ship that knocked the bridge down not escorted by tugs like they do in NY.

https://abc7chicago.com/verrazzano-narrows-bridge-new-york-apl-qingdao-cargo-ship-loses-power/14634032/

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

New York es Muy Rico and can afford lots of the little "pushem-pullem"boats. Baltimore es muy pobre by comparison.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

It’s lost on him that the course diagram I posted are various POINTS in the course connected by straight lines, NOT a continuous course line.

dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone

A couple reports on Qingdao losing propulsion were posted on the weekend, missing some information that would be helpful.

The initial report was by writers at New York Post, (the same outlet that has the truly alarmist story about the Southwest airlines Boeing jet "engine ripping apart" as it was departing from Denver.)
...... https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-804175-1.html

The following stories (that I could locate) on the weekend, about Qingdao, all quoted the New York Post story as the source.
Apparently, the source for the New York Post was a youtuber (or maybe a viewer of the youtuber) who sent them something.

Here's what strikes me as odd.
The Coast Guard confirmed the ship lost propulsion in the waterway, and made no mention of it posing a threat to the bridge.

A photo was included in the weekend stories, and I did not find any mention who took the photo. I believe one of the articles said the youtuber had presented the photo, but not sure on that.
Here's the thing: that photo appeared to be taken from quite a long distance with a telephoto lens, and gives absolutely no clues of indication how close nor how far the ship is from the bridge.
Reports said something like the ship was near the north area of the bridge, and, it was uncomfortably close to the bridge -- but never came close to revealing who was uncomfortable about it.
The supports for that suspension bridge are so much closer to shore than the Baltimore Key Bridge support that was broken, would a ship that size even make it to the support, or would it run aground before it got to it?

Reportedly, Coast Guard gave instructions the Qingdao had to have its propulsion problem checked, repaired and inspected, and the crew menbers each had to fill out incident reports and questionnaires, before being permitted to leave port and continue their journey.
Reportedly, that was all done with very little delay.

Call me skeptical, but the way it looks to me, if there had been a credible near-emergency, or something of serious official concern, it really seems like Coast Guard, NTSB, some waterway/harbor authorities, or some official personnel would have issued appropriate releases with some sort of indication of threat level.
(Now, maybe there are some official releases that answer a few questions and give a little detail beyond "near the north area", and "uncomfortably close", in which case I'm just a dorky skeptic.)