Todays Thought (Page 3): So you still haven’t explained where you get your moral compass. Why what standards do you get your morality? Nobody said anything about the Bible. What you...

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Frank T wrote:

Rac, I'll try, but we both know that you have trou... (show quote)

So you still haven’t explained where you get your moral compass. Why what standards do you get your morality? Nobody said anything about the Bible. What you don’t realize is that your morality actually comes from God, whether you realize it or not. Your belief in God or not is irrelevant.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Racmanaz wrote:

So you still haven’t explained where you get your moral compass. Why what standards do you get your morality? Nobody said anything about the Bible. What you don’t realize is that your morality actually comes from God, whether you realize it or not. Your belief in God or not is irrelevant.

Sure Rac.
Now go take a nap.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Frank T wrote:

Sure Rac.
Now go take a nap.

Ya just as I thought, you can’t even come up with some sort of evidence of where your so-called morality comes from. You know in the animal kingdom, they do kill each other, eat each other steal from each other. So why is it wrong for us? Where does that moral standard come from? And why does everybody have to follow that standard?

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Racmanaz wrote:

Ya just as I thought, you can’t even come up with some sort of evidence of where your so-called morality comes from. You know in the animal kingdom, they do kill each other, eat each other steal from each other. So why is it wrong for us? Where does that moral standard come from? And why does everybody have to follow that standard?

Because most of us have evolved.
Perhaps some day, you will also.

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

Racmanaz wrote:

Ya just as I thought, you can’t even come up with some sort of evidence of where your so-called morality comes from. You know in the animal kingdom, they do kill each other, eat each other steal from each other. So why is it wrong for us? Where does that moral standard come from? And why does everybody have to follow that standard?

My sense of morality simply exists whether I know where it came from or not. I don't have to believe nonsensical myths to have morality and conscience. Coming from a very Christian background, I see no difference in behavior between the people who believe the nonsensical myths and those who do not.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Racmanaz wrote:

Ya just as I thought, you can’t even come up with some sort of evidence of where your so-called morality comes from. You know in the animal kingdom, they do kill each other, eat each other steal from each other. So why is it wrong for us? Where does that moral standard come from? And why does everybody have to follow that standard?

Evidence? An inherently immoral act is always wrong. A Good example is the age German law says minors are illegal. You told anyone that would listen that German law says 14 year olds are legal ... so no harm done.

Malum in se is a concept in criminal law referring to an inherently immoral act, regardless of whether the action is criminalized. Common examples of malum in se actions include arson, murder, and rape.
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Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

gorgehiker wrote:

My sense of morality simply exists whether I know where it came from or not. I don't have to believe nonsensical myths to have morality and conscience. Coming from a very Christian background, I see no difference in behavior between the people who believe the nonsensical myths and those who do not.

The fact that you say, your sense of morally simply exist whether you know where it came from or not is in itself a belief in nonsensical myth. I believe in the law of morality that comes from an intelligent being greater than ourselves. You people who do not believe in a higher being or an intelligent being have have no origin of morally, therefore have no basis for it. It’s funny that thou shall not murder. Thou shall not steal originates from an intelligent being. What makes humans greater than wildlife.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Frank T wrote:

Because most of us have evolved.
Perhaps some day, you will also.

lol

That’s just pure nonsense because we both have Similar moral values yet I know where mine comes from you do not. So basically, your moral values are based on random thoughts.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Racmanaz wrote:

The fact that you say, your sense of morally simpl... (show quote)

So Rac, if it weren't for your belief in Jesus, you would rape and murder at will.
That's very scarey.
Please seek help.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Frank T wrote:

So Rac, if it weren't for your belief in Jesus, you would rape and murder at will.
That's very scarey.
Please seek help.

Wrong, our immoral values are instilled into us before we were born A living more powerful than us agent. You don’t have to believe in God or Jesus or any religion to have moral values because that’s already instilled in us by God.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Racmanaz wrote:

Wrong, our immoral values are instilled into us before we were born A living more powerful than us agent. You don’t have to believe in God or Jesus or any religion to have moral values because that’s already instilled in us by God.

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SteveR Loc: Michigan

Texcaster wrote:

Evidence? An inherently immoral act is always wrong. A Good example is the age German law says minors are illegal. You told anyone that would listen that German law says 14 year olds are legal ... so no harm done.

Malum in se is a concept in criminal law referring to an inherently immoral act, regardless of whether the action is criminalized. Common examples of malum in se actions include arson, murder, and rape.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/a87e6cbc-dfc7-4581-ba22-d9023f976f6d

It becomes so much easier to lie, for one thing, when it's not considered contrary to Godliness. Be good? Why? You may have chosen to be good, but why should others? And we see that in society. Without God there is no real reason to be good. If it's easier to rob, commit fraud to survive, why not? For the Christian, it's all because "we love Him because He first loved us." Without that, it just depends on who your parents were.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Racmanaz wrote:

Wrong, our immoral values are instilled into us before we were born A living more powerful than us agent. You don’t have to believe in God or Jesus or any religion to have moral values because that’s already instilled in us by God.

But that's your, "immoral" values. What about your moral values?
If what you say is at all correct then why wouldn't your God instill morals in all people, not just the holy rollers?

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

SteveR wrote:

It becomes so much easier to lie, for one thing, when it's not considered contrary to Godliness. Be good? Why? You may have chosen to be good, but why should others? And we see that in society. Without God there is no real reason to be good. If it's easier to rob, commit fraud to survive, why not? For the Christian, it's all because "we love Him because He first loved us." Without that, it just depends on who your parents were.

Not to put too fine a point on it but ... "An inherently immoral act is always wrong". God's imprimatur not required.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Frank T wrote:

But that's your, "immoral" values. What about your moral values?
If what you say is at all correct then why wouldn't your God instill morals in all people, not just the holy rollers?

Well, obviously, that was a typo. You’re still deflecting