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Apr 3, 2024 09:08:22   #
Craig Rothgery Loc: Bradenton, Fla
 
When I crop a picture the end result is often soft and "grainy". I have a Sony A3000 with a 20MP sensor. I'm using a 18-55 MM lens. Indoor shots with or without a flash. What am I doing wrong?





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Apr 3, 2024 09:32:02   #
BobPeterson Loc: Massachusetts
 
If you want to take a picture of the youngster then do that. Get closer, use the zoom or both. Your too far away to even take a picture of the family.

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Apr 3, 2024 09:35:35   #
morkie Loc: Simi Valley CA
 
Craig Rothgery wrote:
When I crop a picture the end result is often soft and "grainy". I have a Sony A3000 with a 20MP sensor. I'm using a 18-55 MM lens. Indoor shots with or without a flash. What am I doing wrong?


It looks like you are using less than 10% of the image - and then enlarged it 1000%.

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Apr 3, 2024 09:56:07   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
The more you crop the "softer" it will get. The more you crop the "grainier" it will get.
If you plan to do a lot of cropping, use a camera with a lot more than a 20MP sensor.

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Apr 3, 2024 10:23:05   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Craig Rothgery wrote:
When I crop a picture the end result is often soft and "grainy". I have a Sony A3000 with a 20MP sensor. I'm using a 18-55 MM lens. Indoor shots with or without a flash. What am I doing wrong?


If you had selected "Store Original" when you uploaded the pics I would have more than the 102KB and 110KB files to work with . . .
I have attached my Post Process resulting in files of 6.4MB and 6.8MB files after running through Topaz Photo AI (default settings) and using PhotoScapeX "Auto Color" (default settings) for pics (IMO) with larger files, clarity, and much improved overall.
Both of these picture improvements took <1 minute to process.

If the original pic had been shot using RAW and then uploaded to UHH using the "Store Original" setting I may have been able to do much more.
Best Wishes,
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Apr 3, 2024 10:39:53   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
Craig Rothgery wrote:
When I crop a picture the end result is often soft and "grainy". I have a Sony A3000 with a 20MP sensor. I'm using a 18-55 MM lens. Indoor shots with or without a flash. What am I doing wrong?


I'm just curious here.... why are you not cropping with your camera? Get Closer to your subject or Zoom in with that lens. Lots of area of No Consequence in your sample image (THANK YOU for providing that though, by the way!!) Also...get yer tripod out for this type of work!


Also: Look up on your phone or computer: "How to use Flash indoors for portraits".... Utube is your friend!

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Apr 3, 2024 10:44:25   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
Jimmy T wrote:
If you had selected "Store Original" when you uploaded the pics I would have more than the 102KB and 110KB files to work with . . .
I have attached my Post Process resulting in files of 6.4MB and 6.8MB files after running through Topaz Photo AI (default settings) and using PhotoScapeX "Auto Color" (default settings) for pics (IMO) with larger files, clarity, and much improved overall.
Both of these picture improvements took <1 minute to process.

If the original pic had been shot using RAW and then uploaded to UHH using the "Store Original" setting I may have been able to do much more.
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends
If you had selected "Store Original" whe... (show quote)


Nice post work on this, Jimmy T!!

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Apr 3, 2024 10:52:20   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
yorkiebyte wrote:
Nice post work on this, Jimmy T!!


I agree with yorkiebyte here. Nice job on the pics! But...I wouldn't encourage someone to dive deep into post processing when the problem is poor technique. Just me...

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Apr 3, 2024 10:52:41   #
mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT
 
Many years ago, a photographer who was much better than I, gave me this bit of advice:
"Fill the Frame"
It's another way of saying get closer to your subject.

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Apr 3, 2024 11:08:45   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
mr spock wrote:
Many years ago, a photographer who was much better than I, gave me this bit of advice:
"Fill the Frame"
It's another way of saying get closer to your subject.



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Apr 3, 2024 11:56:11   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Retired CPO wrote:
I agree with yorkiebyte here. Nice job on the pics! But...I wouldn't encourage someone to dive deep into post processing when the problem is poor technique. Just me...


I concur, that technique (first) and Post Processing (second) go hand in hand.
I was just trying to save the pic for him and work with what he submitted.
Helping others makes me . . .
Smile,
JimmyT Sends

Edit: Also, thanks for the kind words!

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Apr 3, 2024 12:03:21   #
Craig Rothgery Loc: Bradenton, Fla
 
Thank you for the thoughts. I have to try taking some in "RAW" and learning how to work with that. A tripod would have been nice, but we were out of state and used "Carry On" luggage, just no room. The intent, in this case, was the family picture which came out fine (Trying to get anything with a 3-year-old is a challenge). After we got home, we wanted just a picture of the grandson. Thanks again for all the comments.

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Apr 3, 2024 12:10:40   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Jimmy T wrote:
I concur, that technique (first) and Post Processing (second) go hand in hand.
I was just trying to save the pic for him and work with what he submitted.
Helping others makes me . . .
Smile,
JimmyT Sends

Edit: Also, thanks for the kind words!


Understood. And you're welcome!

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Apr 3, 2024 14:20:28   #
markwilliam1
 
yorkiebyte wrote:
Nice post work on this, Jimmy T!!


Ya!!

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Apr 3, 2024 16:51:43   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Agree with others. Let your legs be your zoom. Get closer to cut out clutter; use a fill flash to eliminate shadows under chin etc. A closer shot gains you better resolution and will help eliminate grain. With a flash you can drop the ISO down as well which will help with grain. Just my humble opinion. There are other photographers here with much more experience,

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