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Jan 30, 2024 10:15:57   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I agree with your store, you are good to go.

You actually have a full frame using the lenses made for that camera since they cover the whole sensor. Yes, there is crop factor but, who cares. You and your camera and lenses are the only ones capable of producing beautiful images.
My D7000 is not mirrorless and I couldn't care less. That camera along with my 18-200 VR Nikon lens produces quality images for me.

Nothing wrong having a crop sensor camera. Go ahead, make many pictures and enjoy your journey.

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Jan 30, 2024 13:21:00   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you can't have the full-frame you love, love the DX you're with ...

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Jan 30, 2024 22:32:29   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
Bill_de wrote:
Then this thread has no purpose, so why did you comment?



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And I could ask the same of you. As for no purpose, that’s your opinion. I can respect your opinion but I can dismiss it at the same time.

When you’re young you want people to like you. As you get older you care less and less about what other people think of you , which is why old folks say what they want. It’s not intentionally being rude, it’s just not wasting your time on someone else’s viewpoint.

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Jan 30, 2024 23:22:59   #
jimpitt
 
Thanks for the comments, everyone.
(Typo - my full frame lens is is 24-200.)
Clarification ....... my question was "am I wasting utilization of a FF lens on a non FF body?" Shall I trade up to a Zf body or down to a non-FF lens?
btw, by regular I meant non FF. I have not owned a prime lens for several years. As an amateur protographer, I need the flexibility.
Also, I was surprised to see comments about how it was better to use a wide-angle lens on sunsets. I have always used a semi-tele for this. Going all the way back to my Nikon Ftn film body 55 yrs ago.
btw, I have a polar filter on the 24-200, use s needed.
Thanks.

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Jan 30, 2024 23:40:06   #
CO
 
jimpitt wrote:
Thanks for the comments, everyone.
(Typo - my full frame lens is is 24-200.)
Clarification ....... my question was "am I wasting utilization of a FF lens on a non FF body?" Shall I trade up to a Zf body or down to a non-FF lens?
btw, by regular I meant non FF. I have not owned a prime lens for several years. As an amateur protographer, I need the flexibility.
Also, I was surprised to see comments about how it was better to use a wide-angle lens on sunsets. I have always used a semi-tele for this. Going all the way back to my Nikon Ftn film body 55 yrs ago.
btw, I have a polar filter on the 24-200, use s needed.
Thanks.
Thanks for the comments, everyone. br (Typo - my ... (show quote)


You're not wasting the utilization of a FF lens on a non FF body. Just use the lens that has the focal length you need. I have both FF and cropped sensor Nikon cameras and lenses. I'll use the FF lenses on both the FF and cropped sensor cameras.

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Jan 31, 2024 05:52:34   #
BebuLamar
 
jimpitt wrote:
Thanks for the comments, everyone.
(Typo - my full frame lens is is 24-200.)
Clarification ....... my question was "am I wasting utilization of a FF lens on a non FF body?" Shall I trade up to a Zf body or down to a non-FF lens?
btw, by regular I meant non FF. I have not owned a prime lens for several years. As an amateur protographer, I need the flexibility.
Also, I was surprised to see comments about how it was better to use a wide-angle lens on sunsets. I have always used a semi-tele for this. Going all the way back to my Nikon Ftn film body 55 yrs ago.
btw, I have a polar filter on the 24-200, use s needed.
Thanks.
Thanks for the comments, everyone. br (Typo - my ... (show quote)


Now I have to say it's more important what you think than what I think. But yes I do think the 24-200 is wasted on the DX body. I don't know of the 14-50 4.0 lens. I think I would trade up rather than down.

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Jan 31, 2024 07:10:20   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Now I have to say it's more important what you think than what I think. But yes I do think the 24-200 is wasted on the DX body. I don't know of the 14-50 4.0 lens. I think I would trade up rather than down.


The 16-50 is a kit lens. I got one with my Zfc. It is most likely what the OP is talking about, except it's a 3.5-6.3.

I could be wrong, it happens more and more the older I get.

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Jan 31, 2024 12:42:13   #
User ID
 
CO wrote:
Having a cropped sensor camera for landscape photography can be good. You'll be using a wider angle lens to obtain the same field of view as a full frame camera. By using a wider angle lens you're getting more depth of field. For example a 35mm lens on a cropped sensor camera is producing roughly the same field of view and perspective as a 50mm lens on a full frame camera. The 35mm has greater depth of field than the 50mm.

That "advice" is purely 100% unadulterated typical UHH Armchair Expertise (aka Crapola).

Thaz NOT how DoF works. Has nothing at all to do with angle of view, wide, normal, etc, and has everything to do with the final image magnification. (Therefor it also has nothing to do with format size.) Experience teaches you that. Reading UHH armchair experts will just further mislead or confuse you.

To follow your "logic" if I put the 55mm from a Pentax 6x7 on my Canon 5Dxx for use as a 55mm normal lens (instead of a Canon 50mm) then the DoF will majically increase cuz that Pentax 55mm 6x7 lens is actually a wide angle design in its own native habitat.

After all a Canon 5Dxx really is just a crop sensor camera, relative to a Pentax 6x7, so the majic should work ... if the majic ever had worked anywhere at all, which it DOES NOT ! FL does not determine DoF for any resulting final image. Again, experience will teach you how it works (but depending, acoarst, on your awareness of what youre experiencing !).

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Jan 31, 2024 16:21:33   #
CO
 
User ID wrote:
That "advice" is purely 100% unadulterated typical UHH Armchair Expertise (aka Crapola).

Thaz NOT how DoF works. Has nothing at all to do with angle of view, wide, normal, etc, and has everything to do with the final image magnification. (Therefor it also has nothing to do with format size.) Experience teaches you that. Reading UHH armchair experts will just further mislead or confuse you.

To follow your "logic" if I put the 55mm from a Pentax 6x7 on my Canon 5Dxx for use as a 55mm normal lens (instead of a Canon 50mm) then the DoF will majically increase cuz that Pentax 55mm 6x7 lens is actually a wide angle design in its own native habitat.

After all a Canon 5Dxx really is just a crop sensor camera, relative to a Pentax 6x7, so the majic should work ... if the majic ever had worked anywhere at all, which it DOES NOT ! FL does not determine DoF for any resulting final image. Again, experience will teach you how it works (but depending, acoarst, on your awareness of what youre experiencing !).
That "advice" is purely 100% unadulterat... (show quote)


What you're saying about the 55mm lens on different cameras is nonsense. That's not what I was talking about.

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Jan 31, 2024 17:23:15   #
User ID
 
CO wrote:
What you're saying about the 55mm lens on different cameras is nonsense. That's not what I was talking about.

True !!! You were talking nonsense about a 35mm lens on different cameras. How could I have missed that ? Everyone knows that a 35mm lens operates on an entirely different optical principle than a 55mm lens.

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Mar 22, 2024 13:20:57   #
jimpitt
 
Correction: Zfc with a full frame zoom 24-200 6.3.
Am I wasting the extra expense of an f lens on a d mirrorless? Shall I trade for a similar semi-tele zoom in d format?
Landscapes and sunsets are targets for me.
I use the d type kit lens 18-50 3.5 for dinner parties and general use (extremely light to carry around at parties and cruise ships)

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Mar 22, 2024 13:24:44   #
BebuLamar
 
jimpitt wrote:
Correction: Zfc with a full frame zoom 24-200 6.3.
Am I wasting the extra expense of an f lens on a d mirrorless? Shall I trade for a similar semi-tele zoom in d format?
Landscapes and sunsets are targets for me.
I use the d type kit lens 18-50 3.5 for dinner parties and general use (extremely light to carry around at parties and cruise ships)


Do you have an FX Z body? If yes then keep the lens to use for it and use it on the Zfc too. That way it's not wasted in any way. If you don't have an FX Z body then why did you get the FX lens for?

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Mar 22, 2024 14:37:32   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Do you have an FX Z body? If yes then keep the lens to use for it and use it on the Zfc too. That way it's not wasted in any way. If you don't have an FX Z body then why did you get the FX lens for?


Nikon sells the Z fc with the retro version of their FX 28mm Z f/2.8 prime lens as a kit. They also marketed the retro version of their FX 40mm Z f/2 prime lens for it as well long before the full frame Zf body was introduced. I use both lenses on my Z fc. Clearly Nikon has no issue with using FX lenses on the Z fc and neither do i. Historically the best quality lens from Nikon and Canon were designed as full frame lenses. There is also a much greater variety of native full frame FX lenses available than DX lenses for the Nikon Z mount. If the 24-200mm focal range, with a 35mm equivalent angle of view of 36-300mm on the Z fc, works for the OP he should go for it.

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