coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA

You forgot to mention lighter bodies and with advanced features like live digital image processing to help you properly expose photos.
Oh, focus tracking. And oh…

BebuLamar

Regardless, the mirrorless has estabished the firm ground. Now it's the era of shutterless camera. So how many of you are switching the the new shutterless camera from Sony, Nikon?
Won't be long now it will be cameraless imaging is the trend. Canon, Sony and Nikon watch out. It may be the era of Nvidia, Apple, Google and perhaps Adobe.
Now I must say Cameraless Photography has been around a long time, perhaps even before photography with camera but this isn't the same. Just like cameras without mirror have been around since the beginning of photography but they weren't what we call mirrorless today.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

If whatever they have is important to you, buy it.
Otherwise, don't.

Just because they have it doesn't necessarily mean it's important to everyone.

(And there are people who can't understand why it wouldn't be important to everyone.....)

Flickwet Loc: NEOhio

Wow! 14 pages of arguing nothing. I have both! Nikon DSLRs and Olympus MFT. I prefer them both, they both work great. Batteries always seem about to die in the Olympusii. Both take great photos. It’s nice to see the live view in the Olys, it’s more “photog” skill set to see the pic in the DSLR, I like either.

BebuLamar

There are people who think everyone should be the same. That is where the term common sense came from. I don't have common sense.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I do have "common sense", but I always think outside the box, and use analysis of information and deductive reasoning to come to my conclusion. (Which may change if additional information is found that would warrant the change.)

coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA

Do not dispute the personal preference but I think saying the only difference is no shutter does an injustice to the amazing technology cameras like the Z8 or Z9 offer.

Like there is the Atari and MacBook Pro with an M3 chip. You can type a letter with both but try processing a 45 MP RAW file with both and then saying the chip is the only difference.

Whether one needs it or uses it is not the issue.

robertkjr3d Loc: Ann Arbor, MI

Are they just referring to cameras coming out with 'Electronic Shutters' only? Even my own camera now has a limited 'Electronic Shutter' option, but I've never used it, because of how limited the functionality is. But some of the newer models are doing-away with 'Mechanical' shutter. Which only makes sense to me.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Curious, how so?

robertkjr3d Loc: Ann Arbor, MI

Electronic Shutter: 1) Faster Pictures per second (FPS) and Bracketing 2) Quite operation.
Isn't that the point of mechanical versus electronic? Personally I was interested in 'Electronic' and faster frames for 'Image Stacking'. But with my current camera I discovered that not only does it reduce the 'image quality' in electronic mode, but I had other limitations, that it just wasn't worth the effort. But future cameras, that are promised or are already on the market are no longer going to have the 'limitation' if you will of having a mechanical shutter... so picture 'Framerate'... will skyrocket.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Some people like those things.
I rarely shoot burst.
My camera does bracketing.
I don't mind the shutter noise.
So I suppose, I personally, don't have those limitations.

I suppose the frame rate might be akin to capturing each frame from a "movie".

BebuLamar

I love the real shutter noise and I don't shoot burst either but the mechanical shutter is the least accurate component in a camera. Something that if you're 10% off it's considered perfect and 30% off is within tolerance. So I really want to get rid of it.

robertkjr3d Loc: Ann Arbor, MI

As has been pointed out... even when your out in the wild bush. and your shooting birds and the like. The birds/deer could notice the shutter noise too? hehe. There is also an advantage there. Shutter noise to animals may even be louder than your footsteps.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Mirrorless full frame lenses are not significantly smaller or lighter than dSLR lenses.

Switching from full frame or APS-C gear to a flagship Micro 4/3 body (which is all Mirrorless) WILL save you significant size, bulk and weight — of the overall kit of body and lenses — because, while the Micro 4/3 body isn't much lighter (if at all):

> Micro 4/3 lenses are smaller in diameter than full frame lenses. They contain less glass.

> The 2x magnification factor means a 25mm lens covers the same field of view as a 50mm lens on full frame. Similarly, ALL your lenses are half the focal length of full frame lenses for the same field of view.

Those who want to travel lighter can do so. There are the minor trade-offs of "two stops greater depth of field" (than full frame), and "two stops less dynamic range" (than full frame), but I've never found those to be a hindrance to what I do. The latest bodies from OM Systems and Panasonic Lumix are excellent. Lens compatibility and availability are outstanding. Image stabilization is state-of-the art.

Canon EF lens owners can find "smart adapters" and "speed boosters" to mount their dSLR lenses on Micro 4/3 bodies with full automation intact. However, using heavy dSLR lenses on Micro 4/3 bodies sort of defeats the purpose of using Micro 4/3. Switching takes full advantage of the smaller platform's benefits.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I can understand that.

One can deduce from the shutter noise not bothering be that I don't worry about scaring animals with the camera.
(Before someone else goes off... Notice I didn't say it doesn't bother the animals, I said it doesn't bother me. )