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Mar 19, 2024 10:50:35   #
hugEDhog Loc: Bear, Delaware
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
As you go through life, you will see that there is much we don't understand. The only thing we know for sure is removing the mirror makes a better digital camera.


First sentence very true. Second a statement of advance technique.

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Mar 19, 2024 10:56:09   #
rcarol
 
Longshadow wrote:
Why?
Because I must convert?


(Isn't working to well with electric cars so far.)


Bad analogy.

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Mar 19, 2024 10:58:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rcarol wrote:
Bad analogy.

Why? Both are new technology.

But I'm sure you can come up with something to differentiate them,
like one is cameras, the other cars.
Still both new technology....

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Mar 19, 2024 11:03:47   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Courage is the inner resolution to buy a mirrorless camera.

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Mar 19, 2024 11:04:33   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Courage is the inner resolution to buy a mirrorless camera.

Tums will help with that.

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Mar 19, 2024 11:06:19   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
I haven't read through all the posts, but don't forget silent shooting. Big deal in wedding and wildlife shooting. And, of coarse, the cost of film and processing.

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Mar 19, 2024 11:54:47   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
selmslie wrote:
You put yourself into that category. And you seem to be proud of it.

The rest of us have moved on.

Can you tell I don't follow the "crowd"?

But you didn't answer my question.......

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Mar 19, 2024 12:04:45   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
photostephen wrote:
To be a better photographer, use the camera you understand and feel comfortable using.
Some people like Vanilla Ice Cream some like Chocolate. Personal preference. (Of course there are those that prefer Strawberry, there is no one right answer.)
No need to justify your preference, or convince others you are correct, just use the camera you love.
Heck, I often just use my iPhone 14 Pro, and get excellent photos with it.

For me, I switched from a full DSLR with its mirror (a Nikon D850 and D750) to a mirrorless (Nikon Zfc).
For me it was about the weight. Now that I am retired and travelling more, caring a large camera with its large lens left my back aching at the end of the day. So the DX format Zfc with lighter lenses will save my back.

As for image quality. I have Topaz Photo AI, which can fix a lot of the noise and size issues -- exceedling well. Plus a few other helpful plug-ins such as Luminar Neo and the NIK collection. Regardless of cameras, I am happy with my photographic results.

My only decision I have left to make is: Do I keep the D850 and D750, for special occasions, or just use the Zfc which has excellent image quality. (If I do decide to sell off the D850 and D750, I need to figure out where the best place to sell them.)
To be a better photographer, use the camera you un... (show quote)


What special occasion would call for using a less advanced camera than your Zfc?

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Mar 19, 2024 12:06:43   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The customer is king and she demands a mirrorless camera.

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Mar 19, 2024 12:10:15   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Can you tell I don't follow the "crowd"?

But you didn't answer my question.......

The answer is that we all do. It helps us decide whether or not to take someone seriously.

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Mar 19, 2024 12:12:37   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else.

The idea of using a display instead of through the lens is reverting to old time when folks were looking from above to focus...

Issues with the display...
- LIGHT!!! If too bright, good luck using the display.
- Eyes issue If one needs glasses all bets are off, there is no way to adjust for that but use the tiny in camera display in the 'view finder'. Go check for accuracy on that since the display is made of tiny pixels vs 'a normal light' (analog)
- Weight unbalance. (Light body, heavy lens)

That is one of the few reasons why I will not upgrade to mirrorless, even if I do appreciate the new sensors.
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else. br b... (show quote)

Ever heard of a viewfinder!?

bwa

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Mar 19, 2024 12:13:40   #
photoman43
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else.

The idea of using a display instead of through the lens is reverting to old time when folks were looking from above to focus...

Issues with the display...
- LIGHT!!! If too bright, good luck using the display.
- Eyes issue If one needs glasses all bets are off, there is no way to adjust for that but use the tiny in camera display in the 'view finder'. Go check for accuracy on that since the display is made of tiny pixels vs 'a normal light' (analog)
- Weight unbalance. (Light body, heavy lens)

That is one of the few reasons why I will not upgrade to mirrorless, even if I do appreciate the new sensors.
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else. br b... (show quote)


I respectively disagree.

My Nikon mirrorless camera (Z9) allows me to see the image I am about to capture while viewing it through the viewfinder. I do not have to look at the LCD screen to see what I will be capturing. My D 850 and D500 mirrored bodies allow me to view it through the viewfinder too, but with one significant difference--the adjustments to the image for things like exposure compensation, shadows and highlights, etc are NOT reflected in the viewfinder version. But they ARE reflected in the viewfinder when I am using my mirrorless camera. If you want to try and "get it right in the camera" a mirrorless camera can be a better choice that a camera with a mirror.

And the other benefits of a camera with a mirrorless sensor listed by another poster can be very significant too.

As far as I am concerned, the ability to see image adjustments you make before image capture is a huge game changer.

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Mar 19, 2024 12:14:26   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The scariest moment is just before you buy a mirrorless camera.

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Mar 19, 2024 12:14:49   #
streetmarty Loc: Brockton, Ma
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I’m not even sure what that means. Links to Nikon and Fuji what? I have never seen your work and I’m not talking about your results. I was just addressing the misinformation you’re spreading.


Do you comprehend when you read? It is a direct quote, I did use quotation marks, from Ken Rockwell. Not my words! I don’t understand why mirrorless users try to jam their cameras down our throats! You’re happy, that’s awesome. I’m done. I’m sure you’re not! 😘

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Mar 19, 2024 12:16:17   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Why? Both are new technology.

But I'm sure you can come up with something to differentiate them,
like one is cameras, the other cars.
Still both new technology....


New technology? Sony is in their 11th year making mirrorless cameras. Panasonic and Olympus going on 15 years. Both Canon and Nikon made mirrorless cameras 12-13 years ago and have been making full frame mirrorless for over 5 years. The technology is firmly established.

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