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Mar 7, 2024 13:10:55   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Yes. But to get paid, the "professional" has to do pretty good work!


Not really!! People will settle for what we would call Crap as long as the price is cheap.

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Mar 7, 2024 13:13:49   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
[quotePart of her point is that not every photo opportunity requires the heavy iron to serve the purpose of recording the scene for its intended use and audience. [/quote]

...I think the crux is "...not every photo opportunity requires the heavy iron..." which is inherently true. My thought, however, is that if you *have* the heavy iron, you, at very least, have a puncher's chance at success in most, if not all, instances.

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Mar 7, 2024 13:27:50   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Many of you who read my comments know that I'm not a gear nut. I've always believed two things:

Mind over matter — Your photographic knowledge and experience are more important than the hunk of junk in front of your face.

Use the right tool for the job — Don't drive screws with a hammer. Sometimes you do need specialty gear.

Emily at Micro Four Nerds just released a video that is worth watching, and makes my point FAR better than I can. I'll link it below.

A bit of introduction — Emily Lowrey is a professional photographer in the UK. She does a lot of event work like weddings and has a YouTube channel that covers all things Micro Four Thirds and Lumix. Emily's been at it for decades, and knows her stuff. She sells all kinds of Lightroom presets, if you're into that sort of thing.

Most importantly, she cuts through the crap to get to the heart of an issue and lay the cards on the table. So before you think you need a new Whosawhatchit D7590 with four lenses to go on your next adventure, watch the video linked in the post below. It made my day.
Many of you who read my comments know that I'm not... (show quote)


A very astute and interesting viewpoint. Information that does not agree with the statements of numerous Hoggers whose posts enumerate the advantages of one brand or style of camera. I like Emily's idea that we should adjust our thoughts and not always our cameras.

Thank you for posting the link.

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Mar 7, 2024 13:33:13   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Yes. But to get paid, the "professional" has to do pretty good work!


That "pretty good work" is determined by the customers.

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Mar 7, 2024 13:36:15   #
Swifty Loc: Canfield Ohio
 
The comments range from serious to pompous. I have a Sony HX-99 (?) and it serves me for what I need. I get the usual ohs and ahs for my pix and we are all happy. And I’m richer !!!

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Mar 7, 2024 13:37:15   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Yes. But to get paid, the "professional" has to do pretty good work!
Consistency I think is the most important element in professional work.

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Mar 7, 2024 13:41:18   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
That "pretty good work" is determined by the customers.
Exactly.

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Mar 7, 2024 14:04:13   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
burkphoto wrote:
Emily usually does not like honest color. If you read the captions on some of the images, you would see she is using Lightroom Presets that are basically mood-setters. She often goes for the old "Kodacolor Gold 200 on Kodak Royal paper" look, or something that looks like it is from the 1990s. I'm not a fan of that look at all, but then I've always preferred a more realistic look. I don't like pink clouds.


I get the part about how you can do nice work without the most expensive camera and lens combo available. I agree. It's just that she has chosen images that would seem not to demonstrate her claim adequately. The color grading I do is quite different from hers.

burkphoto wrote:
Part of her point is that not every photo opportunity requires the heavy iron to serve the purpose of recording the scene for its intended use and audience. I agree with her on that, but would probably create an entirely different look. I know I would compose and crop many of her scenes differently.


I eschew presets for the very reason that I prefer to edit each image based on its merits, and even similar scenes will require different processing to get the mood preferred. What I want is to learn how to get the look I want myself. "How was this achieved?" is very important to me. But, we all have our ways, don't we? In this video, she seemed to make a big deal out of being a "professional," but never did say in what genre or field of photography. Maybe her regular viewers know that, but I don't.

What I do heartily agree with is the part about using the money to get an education. I just bought a course in color theory and its practical application that has helped me better utilize some of the tools in ACR and Photoshop that I thought I already knew pretty well. So even though her video overall was nothing special to me, I was glad she chose to emphasize that aspect.

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Mar 7, 2024 14:10:05   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Sorry folks, The Times They Are A Changin'. If you shoot action, wildlife, sports, etc. equipment has become the only deciding factor. High frame rate mirrorless camera, ain't you glad you don't pay for film and processing anymore. The latest magic auto focus. Top grade compatible lenses. The only down side is you spend more time at the computer looking for that one great catch out of hundreds or maybe thousands of exposures.

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Mar 7, 2024 14:12:41   #
John Maher Loc: Northern Virginia
 
burkphoto wrote:
Many of you who read my comments know that I'm not a gear nut. I've always believed two things:

Mind over matter — Your photographic knowledge and experience are more important than the hunk of junk in front of your face.

Use the right tool for the job — Don't drive screws with a hammer. Sometimes you do need specialty gear.

Emily at Micro Four Nerds just released a video that is worth watching, and makes my point FAR better than I can. I'll link it below.

A bit of introduction — Emily Lowrey is a professional photographer in the UK. She does a lot of event work like weddings and has a YouTube channel that covers all things Micro Four Thirds and Lumix. Emily's been at it for decades, and knows her stuff. She sells all kinds of Lightroom presets, if you're into that sort of thing.

Most importantly, she cuts through the crap to get to the heart of an issue and lay the cards on the table. So before you think you need a new Whosawhatchit D7590 with four lenses to go on your next adventure, watch the video linked in the post below. It made my day.
Many of you who read my comments know that I'm not... (show quote)


I agree. Upgrades should be driven by capability needs. And, as pointed out in the video, cell phone camera evolution and convenience can satisfy more and more photo needs.

The future is mirrorless, but when does one need it. DSLR development has probably reached its plateau making it more difficult for manufacturers to identify new upgrades worth the cost of upgrading. Mirrorless, on the other hand, will have new/improved capabilities even when backward capability is maintained (e.g., lenses). Look at how fast any DSLR series (e.g., (Nikon D5000) advanced.

Worst case will be when one purchases an upgrade without a defined need and then the next model will satisfy that need.

I suspect most of us are amateurs and hobbyists. A few are professionals who can not only purchase the newest and greatest but can justify it as a business expense and tax write-off. While I do envy that, I enjoy their opinions, especially when they vary. I often learn the most from those with whom I disagree.

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Mar 7, 2024 14:18:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I have what I want now and have no need of new gear.
Back in December I was at the camera shop having some prints made, I looked at the Z8 for about 30m secs. first it looked like ahhh well it didn't look good, and it felt worse The came the price I bought my first farm for slightly more. I'll keep my D800 and two D810s




As great as new gear is, unless you have a real reason to use it, it's no better than what you already have.

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Mar 7, 2024 14:23:43   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
John Maher wrote:
I agree. Upgrades should be driven by capability needs. And, as pointed out in the video, cell phone camera evolution and convenience can satisfy more and more photo needs.

The future is mirrorless, but when does one need it. DSLR development has probably reached its plateau making it more difficult for manufacturers to identify new upgrades worth the cost of upgrading. Mirrorless, on the other hand, will have new/improved capabilities even when backward capability is maintained (e.g., lenses). Look at how fast any DSLR series (e.g., (Nikon D5000) advanced.

Worst case will be when one purchases an upgrade without a defined need and then the next model will satisfy that need.

I suspect most of us are amateurs and hobbyists. A few are professionals who can not only purchase the newest and greatest but can justify it as a business expense and tax write-off. While I do envy that, I enjoy their opinions, especially when they vary. I often learn the most from those with whom I disagree.
I agree. Upgrades should be driven by capability n... (show quote)


I had a need for a new system in 2015 when I bought my Lumix gear. So mirrorless was an easy choice. It still does what I need to do, although that Lumix G9 II Emily was waving around is in my sights. But... I need to live my own advice.

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Mar 7, 2024 14:49:09   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
jerryc41 wrote:
My condolences!


First big laugh of the day. Good comment, Jerry.

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Mar 7, 2024 14:53:35   #
A. T.
 
burkphoto wrote:


Really great video, thanks. I totally agree with her and I simply love her British accent...... my daughter-in-law is British.

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Mar 7, 2024 15:07:37   #
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terryMc wrote:
Sounded like pretty standard "photographer, not the camera, makes the image" stuff, but I thought most of her demo images were ugly: Too much contrast and bad color, mostly. This is not to say that a $3000 camera would have made any difference, but if she intended to show that a cheap camera can do the same as an expensive one, this video did not demonstrate that for me.

I expect many Hawgsters will agree with you about her demo images. Hawgsters are quite deeply brainwashed by a certain homogenous concept of technical judgement about images.

I have no complaints at all about her imaging. Acoarst, that doesnt mean that Ive order any to hang on my wall, either.

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