EJMcD wrote:
Oh, no worries I did get the humor in your comment. I was ok with the topic until it evolved into "deadly" accessories which I have no desire to own.
No disrespect intended here but I don't understand how anyone would prefer waiting for a police response time of up to half an hour or more, rather than having the wherewithal to respond instantly to a potentially life threatening situation.
As I have pointed out in earlier posts in this thread, I have defused that kind of situation, twice, just by possessing a "deadly accessory". In effect, standing up to miscreants who were intent on doing me harm, or worse. And in one of those incidents, my companion as well, without any bloodshed.
It happens more than a million (MILLION!) times every year in the United States. And it's getting worse every year!
And that's NOT to say that I would have hesitated for a second to cause bloodshed, if that was what was required. Far better for them to be losing blood, than for me and/or my wife to be doing so!
You might be more comfortable wearing body armor. I've done that too. But in my experience, being pro-active produces better results!
EJMcD wrote:
I hope THE FBI is not viewing these posts as we'll all be under surveillance
That would be illegal, but not surprising, since we all have the right to keep and bear arms. The FBI has no business surveilling honest citizens
Dennis
I don't usually go where gangs hang out, but to defend my home I have a 35 round magazine for my Glock 19. It is heavy fully loaded, but I'm prepared for bad guys to break in. Ha ha!
EJMcD wrote:
Oh, no worries I did get the humor in your comment. I was ok with the topic until it evolved into "deadly" accessories which I have no desire to own.
And luckily this is America where you have a choice. I appreciate your comments.
Dennis
Retired CPO wrote:
No disrespect intended here but I don't understand how anyone would prefer waiting for a police response time of up to half an hour or more, rather than having the wherewithal to respond instantly to a potentially life threatening situation.
As I have pointed out in earlier posts in this thread, I have defused that kind of situation, twice, just by possessing a "deadly accessory". In effect, standing up to miscreants who were intent on doing me harm, or worse. And in one of those incidents, my companion as well, without any bloodshed.
It happens more than a million (MILLION!) times every year in the United States. And it's getting worse every year!
And that's NOT to say that I would have hesitated for a second to cause bloodshed, if that was what was required. Far better for them to be losing blood, than for me and/or my wife to be doing so!
You might be more comfortable wearing body armor. I've done that too. But in my experience, being pro-active produces better results!
No disrespect intended here but I don't understand... (
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I recall listening to a radio program where they were discussing keeping a loaded gun in their nightstand for protection against burglars. A caller chimed in with..."for you to wake up in the middle of the night, in the dark, reach for your gun and actually hit a burglar you have a better chance of shooting your Mother-in-law in a meat loaf argument". Or, shooting your son coming in from a late night on the town.
No disrespect here either but you do you and I'll do me.
EJMcD wrote:
I recall listening to a radio program where they were discussing keeping a loaded gun in their nightstand for protection against burglars. A caller chimed in with..."for you to wake up in the middle of the night, in the dark, reach for your gun and actually hit a burglar you have a better chance of shooting your Mother-in-law in a meat loaf argument". Or, shooting your son coming in from a late night on the town.
No disrespect here either but you do you and I'll do me.
Yes those incidents have and do happen. But they don't have to. There are ways to minimize those tragic events without giving up MUCH in the way of self defense. An easily disabled lock on the firearm is one way. By the time the lock is disabled the user should be awake and aware of what is going on around him/her. But just like with every other tool ever invented there will occasionally be a tragedy that might happen. I am not trying to simply accept those tragedies but only pointing out a firearm is a tool and may not always be used wisely. I am sure there are still millions of people who use a hair dryer while sitting in a bathtub full of water, people who do not drive as safely as they should, people who use gasoline to start fires and so on. We see those events pretty often. A person misusing a firearm is in those categories of unwise things to do.
Dennis
This thread is getting dangerously close to Attic time. It doesn't deserve to go there. I will be dropping out now.
Dennis
Retired CPO wrote:
Roger That!
Everyone's personal situation is unique...I concur.
dennis2146 wrote:
This thread is getting dangerously close to Attic time. It doesn't deserve to go there. I will be dropping out now.
Dennis
Seems to me the discussions have been reasonable and respectful (so far). That being said, maybe we could get back to the original topic of what unusual stuff we keep in our bags (besides the occasional firearm that some of us sometimes have).
As I mentioned earlier, in my night photography bag I keep a lens warmer and a plethora of head lamps and various Lume Cube panel - style LED lights and a few small multi colored tactical flashlights (for light painting). I also keep a wired intervalometer handy. (One of these days I'm going to get a wireless version).
Lastly, I carry a nice hefty Anker PowerCore+ 2600mAh 45W power pack that I use for a variety of things, but mainly for powering my R5 all night while shooting star trails.
dennis2146 wrote:
Yes those incidents have and do happen. But they don't have to. There are ways to minimize those tragic events without giving up MUCH in the way of self defense. An easily disabled lock on the firearm is one way. By the time the lock is disabled the user should be awake and aware of what is going on around him/her. But just like with every other tool ever invented there will occasionally be a tragedy that might happen. I am not trying to simply accept those tragedies but only pointing out a firearm is a tool and may not always be used wisely. I am sure there are still millions of people who use a hair dryer while sitting in a bathtub full of water, people who do not drive as safely as they should, people who use gasoline to start fires and so on. We see those events pretty often. A person misusing a firearm is in those categories of unwise things to do.
Dennis
Yes those incidents have and do happen. But they ... (
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Or by the time the lock is disabled the user may have already been shot by the burglar!
Basil wrote:
Seems to me the discussions have been reasonable and respectful (so far). That being said, maybe we could get back to the original topic of what unusual stuff we keep in our bags (besides the occasional firearm that some of us sometimes have).
As I mentioned earlier, in my night photography bag I keep a lens warmer and a plethora of head lamps and various Lume Cube panel - style LED lights and a few small multi colored tactical flashlights (for light painting). I also keep a wired intervalometer handy. (One of these days I'm going to get a wireless version).
Lastly, I carry a nice hefty Anker PowerCore+ 2600mAh 45W power pack that I use for a variety of things, but mainly for powering my R5 all night while shooting star trails.
Seems to me the discussions have been reasonable a... (
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Thanks for commenting. Now that we've "both" had our say we can get back to the topic.
EJMcD wrote:
Thanks for commenting. Now that we've "both" had our say we can get back to the topic.
If you read my
entire post - I did get back to the topic.
By the way, one other unusual item I carry in my bag (well kind of unusual) is my FD-RF adaptor. I still have several FD lenses that I use one my 1984 Canon T70 film camera and I sometimes like to adapt them to my R5 just for grins. Actually not bad, but of course only manual focus possible.
Just don't carry a filter (silencer) with it.
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