Interpreter help (Page 3): At this point I am quite sure that the words at the bottom of the pot said "Made by Ikemon of Kanjoen”. So no need for a translation. Now is the pot...

BebuLamar

At this point I am quite sure that the words at the bottom of the pot said "Made by Ikemon of Kanjoen”. So no need for a translation. Now is the pot authentic or it's a copy made to look like the genuine article? I don't know but I do think it's genuine.

Grumpyone Loc: Pascoag,Rhode Island

it says turn me over your spilling the tea

BBurns Loc: South Bay, California

Mac wrote:

Help! I’m being held prisoner in a fortune cookie factory.

I actually have gotten that out of a fortune cookie. I still have it somewhere. Cracked me up !!

BebuLamar

Mac wrote:

Help! I’m being held prisoner in a fortune cookie factory.

Then the prisoner is in the USA. I don't think China has fortune cookie factory.

RainierView Loc: Eatonville, WA

BebuLamar wrote:

I found this listing on Ebay. Your pot does look identical to the one on Ebay.
https://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/125689458202

HaHa, that was my listing from what I was told a while back. I took it down until I verify what I was told back then. If it's a copy of the original, it's worth a fraction of what an original is worth. Copies I've seen don't have any identification on them. We're in no hurry to sell so I'll wait until someone can interpret what's on ours.

RainierView Loc: Eatonville, WA

FrumCA wrote:

Have you tried Google Lens?

Yes, some very similar have no markings on them at all. Those are copies made recently.

RainierView Loc: Eatonville, WA

BebuLamar wrote:

If the pot is genuine it was made in the 19th century and early 20th century (1911 at the latest) and I don't think they put the made in on products at that time. So if it said made in Japan then it's not real. I knew you were joking but you gave me the idea to further investigate.

Previously I was told it was signed by the artist, not where it was made. I'm trying to verify that. Hope someone can read it.

BebuLamar

RainierView wrote:

HaHa, that was my listing from what I was told a while back. I took it down until I verify what I was told back then. If it's a copy of the original, it's worth a fraction of what an original is worth. Copies I've seen don't have any identification on them. We're in no hurry to sell so I'll wait until someone can interpret what's on ours.

But did you in the listing say that you knew what the words mean?

RainierView Loc: Eatonville, WA

BebuLamar wrote:

According to the listing on Ebay the words mean "Made by Ikemon of Kanjoen”.

That was on my post and is what I'm trying to verify.

RainierView Loc: Eatonville, WA

BebuLamar wrote:

But did you in the listing say that you knew what the words mean?

Yes, because of what I was told. Now want to verify from someone else to be sure. I don't want to misrepresent the item.

fantom Loc: Colorado

BebuLamar wrote:

I does appear to be Japanese rather than Chinese but I don't know either language

I'd say it is Chinese vs japanese. Japanese characters are less complicated, generally.
I believe there are sites on the web that will translate these.

RainierView Loc: Eatonville, WA

BebuLamar wrote:

At this point I am quite sure that the words at the bottom of the pot said "Made by Ikemon of Kanjoen”. So no need for a translation. Now is the pot authentic or it's a copy made to look like the genuine article? I don't know but I do think it's genuine.

Thanks. I found the lost information from back a few years ago and it was from Amanda Miller at Bonham's who is an Asian arts expert. She had sent me this; Japanese Seto ware. Signed 還情園池紋製 - Kan Jō En Ike Mon Sei - or “Made by Ikemon of Kanjoen”. This Seto kiln was led by 加藤紋右衛門 - Kato Monemon whose art name was Ikemon and of Meiji period. The piece was made to hold hot tea or hot water. It is a Meiji piece, Ikemon lived till 1911 and the 7th generation Ikemon succeeded the family kiln but did not continue operation of Kanjoen.

Then I googled the maker and found this;Kato Monemon 6th 六代加藤紋右衛門.

All that information took hours of digging to find it again. I forgot where the information came from, that's why I wanted to verify it. I trust her. Mystery solved. Thanks again for your help.

BebuLamar

RainierView wrote:

Thanks. I found the lost information from back a f... (show quote)

So how much is it worth now that you know that it's genuine?

SteveR Loc: Michigan

I have a friend who is Japanese. I've passed the photo of the pot along to her to see if either she or her father can translate it.

RainierView Loc: Eatonville, WA

SteveR wrote:

I have a friend who is Japanese. I've passed the photo of the pot along to her to see if either she or her father can translate it.

Thanks, I'll be waiting to hear what she says.