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Feb 22, 2024 07:53:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
YouTube last night - Sabine Hossenfelder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh_hNvGTmIg&t=58s

The Department of Defense used AI to simulate a real-world situation involving a few imaginary countries. They were surprised and concerned at how quickly the AIs resorted to nuclear war, in one case, just to prevent the other side from going nuclear. ChatGPT was the worst, resorting to nuclear quickly without much need for it. In general, all the AIs found that nuclear war was the answer, whether there was a sufficient reason or not.

Remember "Colossus: The Forbin Project"?

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Feb 22, 2024 07:57:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
"Do you want to play a game?"...

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Feb 22, 2024 08:07:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
"Do you want to play a game?"...


Yes, that's mentioned on the video.

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Feb 22, 2024 09:22:23   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
Remember the "Terminator"?

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Feb 22, 2024 09:29:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
tradio wrote:
Remember the "Terminator"?


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Feb 22, 2024 11:47:09   #
elee950021 Loc: New York, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
YouTube last night - Sabine Hossenfelder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh_hNvGTmIg&t=58s

The Department of Defense used AI to simulate a real-world situation involving a few imaginary countries. They were surprised and concerned at how quickly the AIs resorted to nuclear war, in one case, just to prevent the other side from going nuclear. ChatGPT was the worst, resorting to nuclear quickly without much need for it. In general, all the AIs found that nuclear war was the answer, whether there was a sufficient reason or not.

Remember "Colossus: The Forbin Project"?
YouTube last night - Sabine Hossenfelder. https:/... (show quote)


How about the 1983 movie "WarGames" starring Matthew Broderick and Ally Sheedy? What is the best way to play the game of "Global Thermonuclear War?" "The only winning move is not to play!"

Be well! Ed

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Feb 22, 2024 13:43:33   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Why spend all the money to develop nuclear weapons when all you have to do is control those of others via AI-invasive software? Iran, North Korea, China, or a lone wolf terrorist could grab control of America's (or Russia's) network and make it appear as though Russia has launched missiles toward the U.S. (Or vice versa). America will quickly respond with a launch of its own. Russia will see them coming toward them and launch a retaliation strike. The U.S. and Russia will destroy each other as the bad guy sits back and watches the fireworks.

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Feb 23, 2024 09:02:25   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
tradio wrote:
Remember the "Terminator"?


How could I forget?!

"I'll be back."

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Feb 23, 2024 11:42:32   #
RoswellAlien
 
Used Colossus in a Sci-Fi lit course with HS Juniors almost 20 years ago. Was unsettling then. All too real now.

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Feb 23, 2024 14:06:28   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
elee950021 wrote:
How about the 1983 movie "WarGames" starring Matthew Broderick and Ally Sheedy? What is the best way to play the game of "Global Thermonuclear War?" "The only winning move is not to play!"

Be well! Ed


Let's not omit Orson Scott Card's "Ender's Game". Read the book instead of watching the movie.

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