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Feb 20, 2024 21:27:55   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Maxpixel wrote:
I have a quibble about the term “post processing.” Why not just call it “processing?” We say film is processed, not post processed, so why would processing of a RAW image be any different? Now if I processed a jpg image, which is already a processed image, I can see why that could be called post processing. I thought UHH would be the perfect place to resolve this semantic issue!


We must have a lot of time on our hands…

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Feb 20, 2024 22:29:40   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
Only one step if your processor has a dryer.
If no dryer, second step is move wet film to dryer.

Either way, film processing is just one step in the meaning that its one step in the imaging chain. Step one is expose the film, step two is process film, step three is print negs or scan to files, step four (and beyond) applies only to files. Anywho, that is why processing film is only ONE STEP in the context of 21st century photography ... which is verrry obviously what Longshadow correctly meant by "one step". If you read him again youll find it makes sense.
Only one step if your processor has a dryer. br If... (show quote)


Maybe one step if you run it through a processor. When I did it there was developer, stop bath, fixer, rinse and dry.

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Feb 20, 2024 23:09:51   #
mangurian
 
I only do preprocessing on my images.

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Feb 20, 2024 23:54:43   #
User ID
 
Bill_de wrote:
Or eight steps:
https://www.instructables.com/Developing-Film/

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Or five steps:
https://worldofndt.com/radiographic-film-processing/

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Or nine steps:
https://www.format.com/magazine/resources/photography/how-to-develop-film-35mm-120

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On UHH each method should have its own section, just to avoid confusion.

Maybe it would require a poll to get the fact straight.

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Or eight steps: br https://www.instructables.com/D... (show quote)

Nope, each of those processes is one step. It converts a latent image to a visible stable image. Just that one thing gets accomplished, thus film processing is just one step.

The previous step was exposure, also one step. The next step is whatever you do with the negative or chrome. That can be one step as well, such as a scan. A typical further step would be editing of the file that was output from the scanner. One more step (one step) could be printing the edited file.

Its all step-by-step, ONE step at a time.

Thus far, two Hogsters have posted off topic BS just to prove that they know a bit about about film era chemicals. Typically UHH, so most likely there will be more of same.

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Feb 21, 2024 08:03:54   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
Don’t you find it is pathetic that there i nothing more clickable than the definition of a word or phrase. Get a dictionary.

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Feb 21, 2024 09:03:56   #
Leinik Loc: Rochester NY
 
Maxpixel wrote:
I have a quibble about the term “post processing.” Why not just call it “processing?” We say film is processed, not post processed, so why would processing of a RAW image be any different? Now if I processed a jpg image, which is already a processed image, I can see why that could be called post processing. I thought UHH would be the perfect place to resolve this semantic issue!


To me, it sounds pretty clear and adequate. The raw information is only light/electricity turned into digits. This information is processed in-camera to generate the JPG image that is display on the camera's LCD. The light registered by the sensor has been processed in-camera... what happens next is post-processing. That simple ;o)

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Feb 21, 2024 11:47:26   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
Nope, each of those processes is one step. It converts a latent image to a visible stable image. Just that one thing gets accomplished, thus film processing is just one step.

The previous step was exposure, also one step. The next step is whatever you do with the negative or chrome. That can be one step as well, such as a scan. A typical further step would be editing of the file that was output from the scanner. One more step (one step) could be printing the edited file.

Its all step-by-step, ONE step at a time.

Thus far, two Hogsters have posted off topic BS just to prove that they know a bit about about film era chemicals. Typically UHH, so most likely there will be more of same.
Nope, each of those processes is one step. It conv... (show quote)


By definition a process is more than one step. A process is literally a series of steps.

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Feb 21, 2024 12:29:13   #
Leinik Loc: Rochester NY
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
By definition a process is more than one step. A process is literally a series of steps.


I am not sure I see your point in regards of what we are discussing here, whatever happens in-camera or using an image-processing software is far more complex than just a one-step action, both are processes as they require several different steps, don't you think?

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Feb 21, 2024 13:16:05   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
User ID wrote:
Nope, each of those processes is one step. It converts a latent image to a visible stable image. Just that one thing gets accomplished, thus film processing is just one step.



You probably think you are correct!

I did some research.

You are correct.

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Feb 21, 2024 14:26:25   #
mangurian
 
What is the purpose of this thread and what does it have to do with photography? Just asking.

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Feb 21, 2024 16:01:52   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Bill_de wrote:
You probably think you are correct!

I did some research.

You are correct.

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It’s one process. There are several steps involved.

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Feb 21, 2024 16:03:46   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Leinik wrote:
I am not sure I see your point in regards of what we are discussing here, whatever happens in-camera or using an image-processing software is far more complex than just a one-step action, both are processes as they require several different steps, don't you think?


I’m addressing those that claim processing is one step.

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Feb 21, 2024 16:06:03   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
Nope, each of those processes is one step. It converts a latent image to a visible stable image. Just that one thing gets accomplished, thus film processing is just one step.

The previous step was exposure, also one step. The next step is whatever you do with the negative or chrome. That can be one step as well, such as a scan. A typical further step would be editing of the file that was output from the scanner. One more step (one step) could be printing the edited file.

Its all step-by-step, ONE step at a time.

Thus far, two Hogsters have posted off topic BS just to prove that they know a bit about about film era chemicals. Typically UHH, so most likely there will be more of same.
Nope, each of those processes is one step. It conv... (show quote)


Yes a process often only accomplishes one thing. Yes with film the process of developing just turns the latent image into a visible image. But there are several steps involved in accomplishing this process.

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Feb 24, 2024 15:32:59   #
DJphoto Loc: SF Bay Area
 
Maxpixel wrote:
I have a quibble about the term “post processing.” Why not just call it “processing?” We say film is processed, not post processed, so why would processing of a RAW image be any different? Now if I processed a jpg image, which is already a processed image, I can see why that could be called post processing. I thought UHH would be the perfect place to resolve this semantic issue!


I have decided that "editing" is the most appropriate term for what I do to my RAW (and sometimes JPEG) images to make them what I want them to be.

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