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Feb 19, 2024 12:18:03   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Once AGAIN for slow learners on the lying corrupt Left Wing side of the aisle, this all BULLSHIT spread about even before Trump was elected to push the Socialist agenda of the Democratic Socialist Party.

Trump has done nothing that other businessmen in his position have not done. Yet it is ONLY Trump who is persecuted as well as prosecuted. ...

The courts have found trump liable for sexual assault, defamation, and falsifying business records so far.

His tax records have been referred to the the City of New York, the State of New York Department of Revenue, and to the IRS to take another, closer, more detailed, forensic look BECAUSE of the outcome of the case brought before Judge Engoron. Poor business practices and records have opened up a huge can of worms for trump.

The Colorado District Court found that January 6, 2021 was an insurrection.

The Colorado Supreme Court upheld that ruling and reversed the lower court's decision that trump wasn't an insurrection, they stated that trump is in fact an insurrectionist. No one needs to be charged with insurrection to be labeled as an insurrectionist.

The first major political mistake trump made was on July 27, 2016, when he said "Russia if you're listening, I hope that you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."

https://youtu.be/3kxG8uJUsWU?si=8lGoYLXhHDE2intW

trump’s December 19, 2020 06:42:42 tweet called his cult members to Washingto , DC. "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/tweets-december-19-2020

No matter how hard you try to push the false trump propaganda, trump is not neing persecuted.

He certainly is being prosecuted for breaking laws, STEALING Government Documents, Obstructing Justice, and liabling people by lying about them repeatedly. Those are facts you can take to the bank.

But I wouldn't try to cash in on any bets that trump is being persecuted. Your use of the word doesn't match the actual definition of the word.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/persecute

Remember that gangster, Al Capone, was brought down because of tax evasion!

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/al-capone#:~:text=Meanwhile%2C%20the%20U.S.%20Treasury%20Department,subjects%20of%20tax%20evasion%20charges.

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Feb 19, 2024 12:33:11   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Once again you post close to a million links knowing I won't read one of them. In this case I did read one only to find out Trump's name wasn't even mentioned. Thank God I did waste my time reading them all. You do this all the time trying to point out some intelligence where there is none noted. Next time try picking out just one link and I might take a look. Point out something specific where Trump actually and REALLY wants to be a dictator knowing full well the Constitution would not let him do that. Conservatives across America would not let him do that either.

You continue trying to push a lying agenda it is the Conservatives who want to get away from Constitutional safeguards, away from freedoms yet knowing all along it is the Left, it is YOU and yours who want to push this country toward Socialism. Your posts here prove you support the Biden lunacy with regard to ruining our country. You fully support allowing millions of illegal aliens crossing our border. You support taxpayers paying for these people for food, clothing, shelter, medical care and of course higher education over and above Americans getting the same treatment. You support Biden's stupidity in allowing a Chinese spy balloon flying across our airspace unimpeded, you support Billions upon Billions of taxpayer dollars sent to Ukraine at the expense of America's own social programs to help Americans and of course money for war materiel going toward Ukraine rather than for our own country's protection. You support the Left Wing approach to stopping violent crime by allowing criminals to be released and never be put on trial, by lessening the penalties for violent crimes, by taking firearms away from honest citizens while not prosecuting criminals who possess firearms.

Dennis
Once again you post close to a million links knowi... (show quote)

Relying on the US Constitution to protect the United States from the actions trump wants to take is a fools errand.

IF you'd bothered to read more than one of the links I provided earlier, you'd have learned how democracies fall into Autocracies or Dictatorships.

You can try to argue that the United States isn't a Democracy, but our Democratic Republic follows many of the principles of a straightforward Democracy.

The fact that trump wanted to declare martial law after he LOST the 2020 election was a huge red flag, which you and other trump cult members CHOOSE to ignore.

As I stated earlier, you really do need to educate yourself.

Saner heads prevailed in the trump administration between the close of the polls on November 3, 2020, and noon on January 20, 2021.

The United States will not have that luxury if trump wins the 2024 General Election, because he'll surround himself with sycophants who'll follow trumps orders.

There will no longer be a rule of law, the US Constitution will be suspended or thrown out all together.

trump continues to side with putin.

https://youtu.be/dEldUgBW1dQ?si=c1FutO-0Jjt9b72n

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Feb 19, 2024 13:54:04   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Based on what?

The recently indicted FBI whistleblower "informant"?

You've got to come up with something better than the Comey and Jordan propaganda!


MENTALLY compromised!!! now is that so difficult??

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Feb 19, 2024 13:55:43   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
DennyT wrote:
The people don’t want Biden because what he won’t do
But
They’re terrified of trump because of what he will do


like controlling the border for example??????

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Feb 19, 2024 14:18:12   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
If you're so imbedded into the trump cult, it's no wonder that you're such a denier of what the real world knows to be the truth.

trump was the WORST President in the history of the United States.

You do realize that cults brainwash their cult members, and feed them propaganda to sway their members way of thinking to fall into line with their leader's alternate reality.

We are in the process of potentially having history repeating itself, IF what trump intends to do IF he gets back into the Oval Office occurs.

You really need to look back on world history from the Second World War.

trump has already quoted Hitler in his campaign speeches. How much further down that rabbit hole are you going to allow trump to take his cult before you wake up and start denying trump the opportunity to destroy the very foundation upon which the United States was built?

Let's not forget that trump is siding with dictators and authoritarians, he doesn't support the United States.

Do you really want to live under a Putin style regime where all speech against putin lands you in prison, or like Alexi Nevalny who was poisoned outside of Russia, then immediately arrested upon returning to Russia, and recently was murdered in the Arctic penal colony he was transferred to in December?

Do you really want to live under a Kim Jung Un style regime where food is scarce, and all dissidents are sent to labor camps, and those in close proximity who oppose what Kim Jung Un does lose their lives?

Think long and hard about conditions in countries run by dictators or authoritarians. Because if the trump cult members don't wake up soon, that's exactly where the United States is going to end up under trump.

The cases trump is facing, or have recently been settles are NOT political persecution, trump's own actions brought those cases into being.

Actions have consequences, and trump is finally being held accountable for his past and current actions.

trump is compromised and is a National Security risk at this point. He's going to have to liquidate a lot of assets in order to be able to pay off the over half a BILLION he owes in the three most recent civil cases.
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It appears you have gone off the rails. I’m feeling sorry for you. I don’t think you can suggest any reason for voting for President Biden without mentioning President Trump. Your vitriol seems to consume you. As they say “living rent free” in you head. Hate away dude you appear incapable of happiness. I do have to say, I’m pretty sure I won’t be imprisoned and killed. I do have a bit of knowledge of history as my major in undergrad was a Broad Field History and Social Science. Your diatribe reckons me back to the psychology and political science segments of the social science portions even though it was over 40 years ago. I suggest you turn off MSNBC and watch the National Geographic channel for a few months. You’ll live longer and have less terror in your heart.

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Feb 19, 2024 14:20:24   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
clint f. wrote:
It appears you have gone off the rails. I’m feeling sorry for you. I don’t think you can suggest any reason for voting for President Biden without mentioning President Trump. Your vitriol seems to consume you. As they say “living rent free” in you head. Hate away dude you appear incapable of happiness. I do have to say, I’m pretty sure I won’t be imprisoned and killed. I do have a bit of knowledge of history as my major in undergrad was a Broad Field History and Social Science. Your diatribe reckons me back to the psychology and political science segments of the social science portions even though it was over 40 years ago. I suggest you turn off MSNBC and watch the National Geographic channel for a few months. You’ll live longer and have less terror in your heart.
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too late for your suggestions, she is terminal, same syndrome as 3G & dennyT

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Feb 19, 2024 14:22:45   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
wilpharm wrote:
too late for your suggestions, she is terminal, same syndrome as 3G & dennyT


That’s a she?

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Feb 19, 2024 15:14:47   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
If you're so imbedded into the trump cult, it's no wonder that you're such a denier of what the real world knows to be the truth.

trump was the WORST President in the history of the United States.

You do realize that cults brainwash their cult members, and feed them propaganda to sway their members way of thinking to fall into line with their leader's alternate reality.

We are in the process of potentially having history repeating itself, IF what trump intends to do IF he gets back into the Oval Office occurs.

You really need to look back on world history from the Second World War.

trump has already quoted Hitler in his campaign speeches. How much further down that rabbit hole are you going to allow trump to take his cult before you wake up and start denying trump the opportunity to destroy the very foundation upon which the United States was built?

Let's not forget that trump is siding with dictators and authoritarians, he doesn't support the United States.

Do you really want to live under a Putin style regime where all speech against putin lands you in prison, or like Alexi Nevalny who was poisoned outside of Russia, then immediately arrested upon returning to Russia, and recently was murdered in the Arctic penal colony he was transferred to in December?

Do you really want to live under a Kim Jung Un style regime where food is scarce, and all dissidents are sent to labor camps, and those in close proximity who oppose what Kim Jung Un does lose their lives?

Think long and hard about conditions in countries run by dictators or authoritarians. Because if the trump cult members don't wake up soon, that's exactly where the United States is going to end up under trump.

The cases trump is facing, or have recently been settles are NOT political persecution, trump's own actions brought those cases into being.

Actions have consequences, and trump is finally being held accountable for his past and current actions.

trump is compromised and is a National Security risk at this point. He's going to have to liquidate a lot of assets in order to be able to pay off the over half a BILLION he owes in the three most recent civil cases.
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This from the king of the Hillary/Biden cult. Support corrupt politicians much?

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Feb 19, 2024 15:21:51   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Do you really want to live under an Autracy or a Dictatorship?

Because that's where the United States will quickly end up under trump!


You have for the most part struck me as a fairly intelligent person. When you post stuff like that it shows how wrong I am. Now honestly do you actually believe that any POTUS could turn our country into a dictatorship?? This is on par with what the liberals were crying about saying he would not leave the WH if voted out. Either you are dumb enough to believe these idiotic things said by dem politicians or you're just regurgitating them to try and make a point that obviously doesn't deserve to be spoken if it needs a total lie to try making it believable.

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Feb 19, 2024 15:27:07   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Relying on the US Constitution to protect the United States from the actions trump wants to take is a fools errand.

IF you'd bothered to read more than one of the links I provided earlier, you'd have learned how democracies fall into Autocracies or Dictatorships.

You can try to argue that the United States isn't a Democracy, but our Democratic Republic follows many of the principles of a straightforward Democracy.

The fact that trump wanted to declare martial law after he LOST the 2020 election was a huge red flag, which you and other trump cult members CHOOSE to ignore.

As I stated earlier, you really do need to educate yourself.

Saner heads prevailed in the trump administration between the close of the polls on November 3, 2020, and noon on January 20, 2021.

The United States will not have that luxury if trump wins the 2024 General Election, because he'll surround himself with sycophants who'll follow trumps orders.

There will no longer be a rule of law, the US Constitution will be suspended or thrown out all together.

trump continues to side with putin.

https://youtu.be/dEldUgBW1dQ?si=c1FutO-0Jjt9b72n
Relying on the US Constitution to protect the Unit... (show quote)


"The sky is falling" Seriously?? you honestly believe that one man can change everything the US stands for? You are a very deluded individual. Take off that tin foil hat and get some help.

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Feb 19, 2024 15:47:58   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
scooter1 wrote:
"The sky is falling" Seriously?? you honestly believe that one man can change everything the US stands for? You are a very deluded individual. Take off that tin foil hat and get some help.

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Feb 19, 2024 15:57:54   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
clint f. wrote:
If he was going to do all these bad things why didn’t he do them during his first term? Just wondering out loud. We have to consider that we are being trolled. I’d love to see a biography.


It's unbelievable the liberals believe things like this that are put out by their politicians. The politicians are trolling anyone who would be gullible enough to believe outrageous things like this. Seems they've gotten more gullible people than they could have imagined.

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Feb 19, 2024 16:30:51   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
scooter1 wrote:
You have for the most part struck me as a fairly intelligent person. When you post stuff like that it shows how wrong I am. Now honestly do you actually believe that any POTUS could turn our country into a dictatorship?? This is on par with what the liberals were crying about saying he would not leave the WH if voted out. Either you are dumb enough to believe these idiotic things said by dem politicians or you're just regurgitating them to try and make a point that obviously doesn't deserve to be spoken if it needs a total lie to try making it believable.
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You need to wake up and get real. We only ... "have a republic if we can hang onto it". Criminals have a long, successful history of stealing governments. The next time The Desperate Don will have a better planned Reichstag fire. Or else he goes to jail and then the poor house for eternity.

The ... "Insurrection Act and declaring martial law" ... was the main John Eastman talking point among Ginni Thomas and the other J6 criminals.

"John Eastman Planned for Trump to Invoke Martial Law
He expected riots and his solution was to use the military."
Ron FilipkowskiAug 9, 2023

John Eastman, the architect of Trump's insane plot to overturn the 2020 election, can't stop running his mouth and spilling the beans on his co-conspirators.

In an interview clipped by Right Wing Watch, Eastman was asked if he knew there would be riots in the streets if Pence refused to count the electoral votes on J6. Eastman said that was a likely possibility.

Eastman said that Trump at that point would have no choice but to invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law, and put the US military into the streets against their fellow Americans.

Last year, speaking to a small group in Wisconsin, Eastman again confessed to his crimes by explaining the reasons why he told Trump that state legislatures could simply overturn the will of the voters if they decided there was "fraud."

This admission by Eastman tracks public statements by Michael Flynn and others who were attempting to persuade Trump to invoke martial law, seize voting machines, and have the military supervise another election.

Eastman is currently facing permanent disbarment in California for his role in the J6 conspiracy.

Ron Filipkowski
By Ron Filipkowski
Ron Filipkowski is a former federal and state prosecutor. A Marine and former Republican, Filipkowski has amassed a massive following for his reporting exposing those who threaten American democracy. Filipkowski is the editor-in-chief of MeidasTouch.com and co-hosts the hit podcast 'Uncovered' on the MeidasTouch Network.

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Feb 19, 2024 18:38:55   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
clint f. wrote:
That’s a she?


or a "the"..Hell who knows??

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Feb 20, 2024 02:35:59   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Texcaster wrote:
You need to wake up and get real. We only ... "have a republic if we can hang onto it". Criminals have a long, successful history of stealing governments. The next time The Desperate Don will have a better planned Reichstag fire. Or else he goes to jail and then the poor house for eternity.

The ... "Insurrection Act and declaring martial law" ... was the main John Eastman talking point among Ginni Thomas and the other J6 criminals.

"John Eastman Planned for Trump to Invoke Martial Law
He expected riots and his solution was to use the military."
Ron FilipkowskiAug 9, 2023

John Eastman, the architect of Trump's insane plot to overturn the 2020 election, can't stop running his mouth and spilling the beans on his co-conspirators.

In an interview clipped by Right Wing Watch, Eastman was asked if he knew there would be riots in the streets if Pence refused to count the electoral votes on J6. Eastman said that was a likely possibility.

Eastman said that Trump at that point would have no choice but to invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law, and put the US military into the streets against their fellow Americans.

Last year, speaking to a small group in Wisconsin, Eastman again confessed to his crimes by explaining the reasons why he told Trump that state legislatures could simply overturn the will of the voters if they decided there was "fraud."

This admission by Eastman tracks public statements by Michael Flynn and others who were attempting to persuade Trump to invoke martial law, seize voting machines, and have the military supervise another election.

Eastman is currently facing permanent disbarment in California for his role in the J6 conspiracy.

Ron Filipkowski
By Ron Filipkowski
Ron Filipkowski is a former federal and state prosecutor. A Marine and former Republican, Filipkowski has amassed a massive following for his reporting exposing those who threaten American democracy. Filipkowski is the editor-in-chief of MeidasTouch.com and co-hosts the hit podcast 'Uncovered' on the MeidasTouch Network.
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Explain why we need to vote for Joe Biden without mentioning Donald Trump. We get that you hate him but that motivates people the opposite way. How do you justify a vote for Joe.

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