Sony A1 electronic shutter: I’m still trying to figure things out on my own, but start reading things and then get confused. Should I be mainly using the electronic shutter bs the...

Through_MI_Eyes

I’m still trying to figure things out on my own, but start reading things and then get confused. Should I be mainly using the electronic shutter bs the mechanical? I read that the mechanical was faster. I mainly do bird photography. Soon, I’ll be doing a lot of birds in flight. Looking recommendations. Thanks

tcthome Loc: NJ

Through_MI_Eyes wrote:

I’m still trying to figure things out on my own, but start reading things and then get confused. Should I be mainly using the electronic shutter bs the mechanical? I read that the mechanical was faster. I mainly do bird photography. Soon, I’ll be doing a lot of birds in flight. Looking recommendations. Thanks

look at the continuous drive speeds section.

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billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Through_MI_Eyes wrote:

I’m still trying to figure things out on my own, but start reading things and then get confused. Should I be mainly using the electronic shutter bs the mechanical? I read that the mechanical was faster. I mainly do bird photography. Soon, I’ll be doing a lot of birds in flight. Looking recommendations. Thanks

I do bird photography full time with the Sony a1. I only use the electronic shutter. I shoot at 30 fps RAW. NO ISSUES at all.

gwilliams6

Through_MI_Eyes wrote:

I’m still trying to figure things out on my own, but start reading things and then get confused. Should I be mainly using the electronic shutter bs the mechanical? I read that the mechanical was faster. I mainly do bird photography. Soon, I’ll be doing a lot of birds in flight. Looking recommendations. Thanks

I gave you much info in your other post about this. Do you know you have two separate threads running now with the exact same questions started one day later. Please delete one.

The other thread with same questions, started today:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-799636-1.html

Cheers

joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA

billnikon wrote:

I do bird photography full time with the Sony a1. I only use the electronic shutter. I shoot at 30 fps RAW. NO ISSUES at all.

OMG - what a great capture, Bill 🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍

Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona

dIsn't it the mechanical shutter that tends to give you the effects of rolling shutter more than the electronic shutter? I shoot only with my A1 with an electronic shutter at 30 fps and I never see any affects of rolling shutter. That's why the a9 III has no interest for me.

Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona

dIsn't it the mechanical shutter that tends to give you the effects of rolling shutter more than the electronic shutter? I shoot only with my A1 with an electronic shutter at 30 fps and I never see any affects of rolling shutter. That's why the a9 III has no interest for me.

User ID

Nalu wrote:

dIsn't it the mechanical shutter that tends to give you the effects of rolling shutter more than the electronic shutter?.

No. Viceversa.

Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona

User ID wrote:

No. Viceversa.

Thanks for the clarification.

gwilliams6

You can use the electronic shutter for most shooting. The electronic shutter has flash sync up to 1/250 sec., a first for any fullframe electronic shutter on a camera. The mechanical shutter can flash sync up to 1/400 sec, in fullframe mode, and 1/500 sec, in crop mode.

That is the only time the mechanical shutter is faster.

To go up to the A1's max shutter speed of 1/32000 you have to be in electronic shutter .

Here is the A1 focus guide:
The A1 focus guide:
https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/.../en/tips.html...

Mark Galer's A1 E-book:
https://www.markgaler.com/product/a1-ebook

Cheers

gwilliams6

For BIF you can choose to use either the electronic shutter or mechanical shutter . Often not having shutter noise can be helpful in the wild. I always use my A1 in electronic shutter when doing BIF.

Technically you might still get a bit of rolling shutter with the electronic shutter with fastest subjects, but the fast stacked sensor of the A1 minimizes that chance. No rolling shutter with mechanical shutter; or with a global shutter electronic shutter like in my A9III.

1)Here electronic shutter, A1, Sony 200-600mm lens, A Snowy Egret takes off from its watery perch on the Caribbean Island of Sint Maarten/St. Martin. A1, 319mm, ISO 1600, f6.3 , 1/4000 sec., handheld.

2) A Parrot in flight on the Caribbean Island of Sint Maarten/St. Martin. A1, Sony 24-105mm f4 G OSS lens, electronic shutter, 105mm, ISO 1600, f4, 1/2000 sec., handheld.

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selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

gwilliams6 wrote:

No rolling shutter with mechanical shutter...

A mechanical shutter can still have a rolling shutter effect.

Above the A1's mechanical flash sync speed of 1/400s you can get some rolling shutter because the sensor is exposed to a narrow slit of light that gets narrower as the shutter speed is increased.

For example, at 1/4000s the slit covers only 1/10th of the sensor that still takes about 1/400th of a second to complete its travel.

gwilliams6

Technically you are right, however

"The effect can still be present but tends to be much less perceptible with a mechanical shutter than with an electronic shutter on a camera with a relatively slow sensor readout speed." (quote from Canon USA)

The A1 has a very fast stacked sensor readout speed, so in mechanical shutter with the A1 there is virtually no rolling shutter effect even at high shutter speeds.

Cheers and best to you.

User ID

gwilliams6 wrote:

The A1 has a very fast stacked sensor readout speed, so in mechanical shutter with the A1 there is virtually no rolling shutter effect even at high shutter speeds.

Cheers and best to you.

Just some garbled paraphrasing by a flack who misapprehends his handlers marketing claims. Better off listening to Selmslie on this stuff.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

gwilliams6 wrote:

Technically you are right, however ...

The A1 has a very fast stacked sensor readout speed, so in mechanical shutter with the A1 there is virtually no rolling shutter effect even at high shutter speeds.

Above 1/400s it depends on the shutter speed, not the readout speed.

At 1/8000s the separation between the shutter curtains is only 5% of the full sensor area.

The only way to avoid the rolling shutter is with a global shutter.