The rise of the AI VI
Feb 7, 2024 22:15:40 #
NickGee wrote:
Of course they will. But that does not minimize the importance of the effort. We can whine about it or we can work on ways to mitigate the damage. AI is creating a mess (not just in visual media, but in print media as well).
Yeah, and imagine what career politicos will be doing with it.
Feb 8, 2024 02:05:37 #
We seem to be dealing with two issues here. First how AI effects the world at large. In reality there is nothing we, as Hoggs, can do about that. Second the use of AI on this site. As long as I identify an image or a composite using AI images I should be able to post them on any Forum I chose.
Feb 8, 2024 05:30:21 #
JimH123 wrote:
I prefer to have these in general photography as it shows us what is trying to be passed off as real photography. Put it somewhere else and I would never know about it.
And the agree that this result is really poor.
And the agree that this result is really poor.
I also believe it should be in general photography,
it's something that could impact on a lot of pro photographers.
Feb 8, 2024 05:32:16 #
I lived in Argentina for a period of time and visited many times, my x was a Argentinian American dual citizen. I found the people great, the politics not so.
Google "Argentina political turmoil" and read about how the political pot is boiling.
Google "Argentina political turmoil" and read about how the political pot is boiling.
Feb 8, 2024 08:01:19 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
jlg1000 wrote:
It was only matter of time that AI generated image... (show quote)
It is a cartoon, not a real image, not real people, anyone with a brain can see that.
Feb 8, 2024 08:24:54 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
We seem to be dealing with two issues here. First how AI effects the world at large. In reality there is nothing we, as Hoggs, can do about that. Second the use of AI on this site. As long as I identify an image or a composite using AI images I should be able to post them on any Forum I chose.
If by "any Forum" you mean "any UHH section" I have to disagree. The Gallery, for example, "is for posting pictures you took." (Admin's words)
So images created entirely by AI software should not go in Gallery or most other sections of the Forum. Photographs created with AI assist in the editing process are another story. The question then is: how much AI editing is allowed before the image is no longer a "picture you took".
Feb 8, 2024 09:01:42 #
NickGee wrote:
... AI is introducing chaos and distrust in the universe of visual arts.
Photoshop and other editors have already accomplished that.
Feb 8, 2024 09:48:22 #
StanMac
Loc: Tennessee
JimH123 wrote:
I prefer to have these in general photography as it shows us what is trying to be passed off as real photography. Put it somewhere else and I would never know about it.
And the agree that this result is really poor.
And the agree that this result is really poor.
I agree with you Jim. This section is a place to talk about photography in general, including the issues that impact photography methods, practices, and developments.
Stan
Feb 8, 2024 09:49:10 #
billnikon wrote:
It is a cartoon, not a real image, not real people, anyone with a brain can see that.
Of course it's a cartoon. It¡s a political cartoon in the political section of the newspaper. You should follow the link attached to see the context.
The post was not about the quality of the image, which I already defined as crude, but about how the tech is appearing in mainstream media and displacing graphic artists. I've already found many other examples in other media.
I asked a friend of mine who does graphic design for advertising agencies, and he told me that such a crude political cartoon should take about one or two hours to make, and then another hour after revision by the editor.
The editor would call in and tell him "Hi dude, draw me a political cartoon in which two guys take a bag of dirty money in front of two dumb politicians and the congress building in the background"
Guess what, probably the one who wrote the actual political article, typed that very words into a text-to-image generator, and got 10 or 20 examples, from which he choose that one and pasted it right away.
So... no more cartoonist, hasta la vista.
Feb 8, 2024 12:00:18 #
philmurfin wrote:
I also believe it should be in general photography,
it's something that could impact on a lot of pro photographers.
it's something that could impact on a lot of pro photographers.
Should Admin shut down the Ai section?
What you are recommending would mix the Ai work with people who want to know how to get a stuck filter off their lens, or what company they should book their African safari with.
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Feb 8, 2024 13:07:22 #
Bill_de wrote:
Should Admin shut down the Ai section?
What you are recommending would mix the Ai work with people who want to know how to get a stuck filter off their lens, or what company they should book their African safari with.
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What you are recommending would mix the Ai work with people who want to know how to get a stuck filter off their lens, or what company they should book their African safari with.
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Is it really so difficult to comply with the First Amendment ?
Just don't read anything which subject contains the "AI" term.
Feb 8, 2024 13:22:42 #
jlg1000 wrote:
Is it really so difficult to comply with the First Amendment ?
Just don't read anything which subject contains the "AI" term.
Just don't read anything which subject contains the "AI" term.
So what does the 1st Amendment have to do with the UHH forum?
Feb 8, 2024 13:29:53 #
I started working on AI in 2012. I saw the good ot could do, especially in business and medicine, but I also saw the dangers. This picture is pretty easy to create with AI. What will be even more dangerous is when a person in a ad or video looks exactly like the real human. Their speech patterns have been copied and digitized, either individually or whole words. They can make the person lips move to the words. They can nefariously create speeches that were never given, yet given the stupidity of people, they will believe them. They will end up on certain news networks as the God's truth.That is where AI is very dangerous
Feb 8, 2024 13:30:03 #
jlg1000 wrote:
Is it really so difficult to comply with the First Amendment ?
Just don't read anything which subject contains the "AI" term.
Just don't read anything which subject contains the "AI" term.
Is it really that difficult to comply with the rules of the site? A privately owned company isn't required to comply with the First Amendment, only government entities.
Feb 8, 2024 13:30:44 #
jlg1000 wrote:
Is it really so difficult to comply with the First Amendment ?
Just don't read anything which subject contains the "AI" term.
Just don't read anything which subject contains the "AI" term.
Is it so difficult to use the section that was created by Admin specifically for AI?
Photos get moved the the Photo Section when Admin can keep up with all those that can't be bothered doing the right thing.
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