Canisdirus

I'll assume you are talking to me.

OM-D has very little capital...47 million last year.

The other companies spend more than that on just R&D alone.

They are using...the same OLD sensor...inventory they could not get rid of when it was Olympus.

Marginal updates here...very marginal.

Look...they aren't EVER going to tell you.

You can either read between the lines...or you cannot.

JIP doesn't turn companies around...they buy failing companies cheaper than their inventory.

That's how they operate as a business...they are not an optical company.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

It doesn't matter to me. I have all their stuff I'll ever need. As long as it keeps working I don't care.

I don't get what your interest is in pissing on everyone's cornflakes every time there's a new thread on Olympus or OMD products. Everything in life is a gamble, I'll take my chances with a system I love. So what if it's a very small corner of the market?

hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

I had read or watched someplace that the firmware in the OM-1m1 had to be updated so SyncIS works on it. It appears that none of the new features on the OM-1ii can be added to the original version.

The graduated ND can be rotated and moved up and down.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

That's pretty cool.

gwilliams6

FYI, the Sony A7RV and Sony A9III both have 8 stops of IBIS and have even more stabilization with OSS lenses. So the Sigma lens on Sony A7RV and A9III bodies will start with 8 stops IBIS and have even more with its OSS .

Sony does not allow third-party E-mount lenses to use TCs on Sony bodies, but these same Sigma lenses in L-mount do allow TC use on Panasonic and Leica cameras.

And yes most respected reviewers have looked at the OM 150-600mm lens design and specs, and yes it is the Sigma fullframe 150-600mm lens, and they all say this OM version is way overpriced. It is well known that OM is using some Sigma lenses to fill out its lens lineup. No different than Nikon Z-mount using some Tamron lenses to help fill out their Z-mount lens lineup. You can believe it or not

Cheers and best to you.

Canisdirus

I'm not that interested whether it affects you or not.
My opinion is based upon data and common business sense.

Feelings have little to do with it.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

How could they be using the same old sensor when the OM-1 sensor is a completely different sensor than Olympus used in any of their cameras. It’s also pretty common for camera manufacturers to use the same sensor in more than one iteration of a camera model. I don’t know any that design a new sensor going from mkI to mkII.

Canisdirus

It's the same sensor...they just tweak it. The had them in the inventory...Olympus couldn't move them.
JIP isn't about to develop new tech when their shelves are filled with something that will...pass.

OM-D simply doesn't have the capital to move forward as any sort of competition...it still takes money to do that.

They are just...squeezing the lemon.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

Gosh, what are we to do? I'll just have to throw away all that crappy stuff I have and start over.

Thanks for the heads up!

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

It’s not at all the same sensor that was tweaked. It’s a stacked sensor. That’s how they can achieve 50fps with full AF tracking. Nothing before the OM-1 had a stacked sensor. Once again showing what a no-nothing blowhard you are.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

Part of the problem is that the chips have changed in the OM-1 mkII plus the firmware software has changed. The buffer in the mkII is twice the size of the original OM-1. And the operational chips have changed basically the same amount. This means that stuff that one would normally hope to upgrade in the original will not upgrade because it would require more space than is available in the original OM-1. The push by OMDS to put more computational software in their cameras is amazing and very useful. How many full frame cameras have a density filter system, a variable density system, and three choices for the line sharpness? And how many of the other features can be found in a full frame camera at the $2400 price. "None" comes to my mind. I can spend $2400 and get more than spending $6500. Plus the system is still smaller, lighter, and less costly in many other aspects. It is innovations like these that will push OMDS and 4/3rds into the future. Yes, the eventual 25mp or 30mp sensor will help. But having all the "computer" and what were post-processing features to use live while shooting is more important to me.

Canisdirus is just jealous that we have now what his camera will only have sometime in the future. Both OMDS and Panasonic will push the technology that the other brands will eventually copy.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

gwilliams6, I have no reason to doubt your information. Yes, the 8 stops can be found in both the A7 mkIV and A9 mkIII (8 and 8.5 are basically the same in my opinion). And as many manufactures as can, they tie in their lens's IS to their body's IS. I personally think it has been one of the best technical advances for cameras.

Although most of the optical design came from Sigma, the "tweaks" were from OMDS. The Sigma lens has 4 stops IS while the OM lens has 7 stops IS (with 7 stops ILIS, Panasonic 4/3rds can also use the lens). The Sigma lens is listed as "dust and splash-resistant structure" with no rating. The OM lens is rated as IP53 and truly weatherproof. How much did these design changes and quality upgrades cost (they were not free). The OM 150-600 may or may not be "way overpriced". But I am not surprised by some of the sharing of one company's product. Sigma makes more profit on a design and sale of parts and OMDS only needs to modify the design to meet OMDS's upper end non-professional lens requirements. This becomes a win-win for both companies.

Canisdirus

Same sensor though...stacked or not.

It's a marginal upgrade...NO ONE is saying otherwise.

I don't really care if you can't smell the coffee.

And that lens they released...if that's not a tip off I don't know what is. Outrageously overpriced...like their other long lens.

Micro was supposed to be just that...micro. Marketing worked very hard on the terminology.

Today, cellphones have taken that market...and then some. The new phones are coming out with 50MP sensors and Leica lenses....for way less money than the new OMS body...without a lens.

The only reason to be in micro today is a physical disability (which means staying with the initial mission of small lenses)...or...you can't afford to move up. That's it.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

“Same sensor though...stacked or not” makes absolutely no sense, which I admit is what I expect from you. As for marginal upgrade, that’s what you might believe if you watch this kind of clickbait. The fact is this is a Mark II version of a camera, not an entirely new desigb. It’s inline with or exceeds what kind of upgrades you get with a 2nd iteration of a model. How often does a model II have a new sensor design? Rarely!
And yes, cellphones have had a huge effect on the camera market and pretty much completely killed the P&S market and entry level ILC market, but that has nothing to do with format. There’s no cellphone out there that can come close to what I can get with my OM-1.

Canisdirus

It's a minor upgade...in less than two years...the new lens is...meh...and overpriced big time.

Tea leaves...some can read them...some cannot.